When was Satan's Fall From Grace?

[Paleouss]

Greetings JonC

It could also be that Satan and 1/3 of the angels waged war in heaven and were cast out prior to Adam's sin

I'm exploring your logic here, or data that has you conclude such. I have a couple of questions...

1. What data in Revelation 12, I'm assuming you are referring to just Rev 12:4. What data suggests that this event in Rev 12:4 is the first fall of Satan?

2. What data in Genesis 3 suggests that the event in Genesis 3 is the first fall of Satan?

What I'm expecting you to reply is that there is no data in Rev 12:4 that would suggest this is the first fall of Satan. No data one doesn't infer anyway. But in Genesis 3?

Peace brother.

 

[Paleouss]

I missed one of your questions...

Genesis 1:31 is certainly true but does it require that everything in both the invisible, immaterial world and the visible, material world were "very good" at the end of the Creation or is Gen. 1:31 only speaking of the material universe, etc.?

Genesis 1:1-31 is a single, unified story of creation told in six chronological days. It is distinct from the more zeroed in version in Genesis 2:4. In other words, Genesis 1 is clearly meant as one whole story.

In Genesis 1:31 it says, "Then God saw everything that He had made". Everything He had made includes the story from start to finish. From the start of the story it says, "In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth...". So yes, the heavens (the invisible, immaterial world) is included in the one whole story (that is one whole account) and considered everything made "very good".

Peace to you brother