Alive in Christ
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...sais the guy who refuses to watch the video. :laugh:
...sais the guy who refuses to watch the video. :laugh:
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Who is Rick Warren, really?
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SolaSaint
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Yes, read the Purpose Driven Life.
one thing rick warren is....is a pragmatist.
Our Buddy RW is Involved in this TOOOOO!
SEE: http://theamericanmuslim.org/tam.ph...ight-wing-extremists-for-hosting-mpac/0019538
"From Dr. Cornel West to Pastor Rick Warren to Tariq Ramadan, MPAC has brought together the top minds of the world each year for open, honest discussions about the issues impacting American Muslims." :smilewinkgrin:
SEE: http://theamericanmuslim.org/tam.ph...ight-wing-extremists-for-hosting-mpac/0019538
"From Dr. Cornel West to Pastor Rick Warren to Tariq Ramadan, MPAC has brought together the top minds of the world each year for open, honest discussions about the issues impacting American Muslims." :smilewinkgrin:
saturneptune
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That is consistent. You pretty much do not care about anything Scrpitural unless it fits your agenda. At first, I felt very uncomfortable with Warren's methods, but the fact you do not like him tells me to take a second look at him for the good he might be doing to tell a lost world about the Gospel. There are some posters in this thread that I respect their opinion very much that speak favorably of Warren. It makes the situation difficult, because I also respect the posts of Sola Saint. Your posts have no substance whatsoever.
As I said Rick Warren is not my cuppa tea. I'm not a PDC fan.
But he has done some amazing things for God.
That being said, as far as I know he has been faithful to his wife which is something that cannot be said for a lot of the so-called superstar preachers who dot their i's and cross their t's on all other matters. To me that speaks volumes. As well as how he reacts when he faces criticism- that shows his character.
But he has done some amazing things for God.
That being said, as far as I know he has been faithful to his wife which is something that cannot be said for a lot of the so-called superstar preachers who dot their i's and cross their t's on all other matters. To me that speaks volumes. As well as how he reacts when he faces criticism- that shows his character.
SolaSaint
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I agree Lucas.. Warren has done some very great good and he does present good Christian character.
SolaSaint
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Dude,
The issue in this link was the statement that we should be "Inter-religious", what is that? Does that mean we should worship together or just respect each other. This is an area where I think Warren is a little vague.
Alive in Christ
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Absolutely.
Yup!! I agree. I'm not a "follower" of him but I think he's done some really good things and it's important to not get so "inbred" that we forget that we are reaching a world that knows about God but has never met Him. If it means that we allow people to come to church in flip flops so they hear the Word, then so be it.
It was interesting when I was reading Bohnhoeffer's biography last night how he had "ecumenical endeavors" as well. I don't hear anyone getting on HIS case.
As I said earlier, I guess our church should stop supporting the crisis pregnancy center that we started because the Catholic church also supports it. Don't want to have people think that we are compromising.
Well sure. I don't have enough time to watch a two hour video so your suggestion is that I read a book?!
I'd like to know YOUR opinion of Rick Warren. You started the thread. Man, why is this so hard--like hanging soap bubbles on the Christmas tree?
Zaac said:
What kinds of ecumenical endeavors? What kinds of joining?
[Question directed at Alive in Christ, since I know I won't get squat from Zaac.]
Zaac
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It was interesting when I was reading Bohnhoeffer's biography last night how he had "ecumenical endeavors" as well. I don't hear anyone getting on HIS case.
YOU were reading Bohnhoeffer. No one else in this discussion seems to have been. If I were reading something about his ecumenical joining of the Body to that which is against Christ, I would have the very same objection as GOD says to not do it.
And this is the problem AGAIN with so much of Christendom. We've got this very wrong notion that if we "accomplish" something that people think is good, that we have honored Christ. As much as the world thinks it is good , it will burn as the chaff.
Our "sacrifice" while accomplishing "good" DOES NOT supersede God's command to OBEY FIRST.
So no matter how good the accomplishment is, if we have disobeyed, it's still sinful.
Obedience is BETTER than sacrifice.
As I asked earlier, did you PARTNER with the Catholic Church in this endeavor? If so, your church is just as wrong as Saddleback would be if it partnered with that which is against Christ.
And even if you haven't partnered with that which is against Christ, when you give the perception that you have, the consequences are much the same.
When confusion is authored it's because folks are unaligned with God's word.
When Jesus was with all the tax collectors and those that people perceived to be against Him, He witnessed Himself and His truth.
Is Warren witnessing the truth of Jesus Christ crucified and resurrected or is he just trying to find common ground?
Zaac
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Again, you're sitting at your computer asking a question that you could quickly get the answer to. But the modus operandi of the clique on this board is to get someone to post something so that you can set about trying to refute it.
So find the "ecumenical endeavors" yourself.
no...says the guy who every time one of these slanderous threads comes up does his homework by researching said accusatory statements in context and by going to the source for clarification which he always gets.
Have you ever directed a question to Warren? If not you are nothing more than a gossiper.
Zaac
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If it's the one you want to use, have at it. As I said, folks are gonna believe what they wanna believe and you can find stuff that agrees with what you want to believe. So accept it and move on.
The best source is usually the person being spoken of.
PDL is a fast read. It's also in chapters. I read here and there, usually finishing a book in about a week. The bathroom is the best place to read! LOL But a book is easy to start and stop here and there - a video is definitely much harder.
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