Why do you use the Bible translation you use?

[JesusFan]

There are known bad manuscripts the so called critical text Bibles use.

Also known errors in the various TR texts also

 

[37818]

The Originals

From mss copies, on what basis do you typically accept one reading over another as the Original reading?

 

[JesusFan]

What are the specific standards and measures that are used to determine which manuscripts are to be considered "bad" and are those same exact standards/measures applied consistently and justly?

The Kjvo seemed to be very reluctant to use the same standards and measures that they apply towards the translations

 

[37818]

Also known errors in the various TR texts also

How do you understand a known error in the TR is recognized?

 

[JesusFan]

From mss copies, on what basis do you typically accept one reading over another as the Original reading?

The older the manuscripts, the variants that seem to have a "harder" way of stating, like most likely not changed or corrupted, and also as a good attestment to it in historical textual evidences

 

[37818]

The older the manuscripts, the variants that seem to have a "harder" way of stating, like most likely not changed or corrupted, and also as a good attestment to it in historical textual evidences

So inerrance is not part of the Biblical standard?

 

[JesusFan]

How do you understand a known error in the TR is recognized?

Are there any error or mistakes in it?

 

[37818]

Are there any error or mistakes in it?

In the TR, I believe so. There are different TR edtions for that matter, they all cannot be correct.

 

[Reynolds]

The Kjvo seemed to be very reluctant to use the same standards and measures that they apply towards the translations

There is KJV highly preferred and KJV only. Most KJV only base their belief on handed down lore and not fact. I like the KJV. I have converted my KJV highly preferred Pastor to LSB. I simply pointed out to him that he had no clue what Elizabethan words and phrases mean and because of that he made a lot of errors. He agreed.

 

[JesusFan]

So inerrance is not part of the Biblical standard?

I hold to the same view as held here
https://www.etsjets.org/files/documents/Chicago_Statement.pdf

Only the originals were inspired and perfect, with out any errors or mistakes in them

 

[JesusFan]

In the TR, I believe so. There are different TR edtions for that matter, they all cannot be correct.

Think same can be said of the Critical and majority texts also

 

[JesusFan]

Forgive my ignorance, what is a "TR guy?"

Textus receptus guy

 

[JesusFan]

Yes. I have 2 copies of it.

Which editions?

 

[37818]

The older the manuscripts, the variants that seem to have a "harder" way of stating, like most likely not changed or corrupted, and also as a good attestment to it in historical textual evidences

The LSB has for John 13:2, And during supper, the devil having already put into the heart of Judas Iscariot, the son of Simon, to betray Him, . . .

Which is neither the oldest reading (P66) nor the most difficult reading, see John 13:4 and John 13:26. The harder reading being "supper being ended."

 

[JesusFan]

Not when they follow the Original Text their not. The TR sometimes follows the wrong manuscrips.
Somtimes the Majority of all manuscripts may be mistaken.

I think the editors of critical text bibles made bad decisions when looking at variants. Unfortunately translators are told to use texts made by critical text people that make primative bad decisions and wrong choices.

Lets not blame the manuscripts. It's the editors that make the bad choices.

Some Greek texts are closer to what the originals were, but still think that one can use and have confidence in CT/MT/Bzt/TR Greek texts

 

[JesusFan]

The LSB has for John 13:2, And during supper, the devil having already put into the heart of Judas Iscariot, the son of Simon, to betray Him, . . .

Which is neither the oldest reading (P66) nor the most difficult reading, see John 13:4 and John 13:26. The harder reading being "supper being ended."

Which could be a passage where might be preferred to have gone other route

 

[37818]

Which could be a passage where might be preferred to have gone other route

Personally I do not think so. Judas was at the institution of the remembrance, which in my understanding was done at the end of the supper, Luke 22:19-21.

 

[37818]

I hold to the same view as held here
https://www.etsjets.org/files/documents/Chicago_Statement.pdf

Only the originals were inspired and perfect, with out any errors or mistakes in them

Which would mean that a contradictory textual error would never be the inerrant word of God.

 

[37818]

Think same can be said of the Critical and majority texts also

Which goes back to the question of choosing the best textual reading. On what basis? Of course it is by each variant reading.

 

[37818]

Both use the same Greek texts.
Tbe JW Bible, John 1:18,
No man has seen God at any time; the only-begotten god who is at the Father’s side is the one who has explained Him.
The LSB, John 1:18,
No one has seen God at any time; the only begotten God who is in the bosom of the Father, He has explained Him.