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Until you've addressed what I've posted your arguments are invalid and your repeated assertions along with the rest of your logically fallacious are ignored.

 

Note the Calvinist use of logical fallacies. They claim I did not address, and that I dodged. Yet the opposite is the case.

"And I, brethren, could not speak to you as spiritual men, but as to men of flesh, as infants in Christ." (1 Corinthians 3:1) And how did Paul speak? I gave you milk to drink. Thus men of flesh and infants in Christ both can receive and be nourished by spiritual milk. It is a lock.

If you are keeping score, Matthew 23:13 demonstrates unregenerate men were seeking God effectively, because they were actually entering heaven.

Matthew 13:1-23 teaches us Jesus taught in parables to prevent some unregenerate people from understanding the mysteries of heaven at that time. Then Jesus tells us of an unregenerate man, spiritually dead, who immediately receives the gospel with joy.

See a pattern, unregenerate people have some (limited) spiritual ability.

Next we could turn to Romans 11, where God hardens hearts to prevent the spread of the gospel among Jews. Once again teaching before hardening, they had some ability to understand the gospel.

And finally, I provided Galatians 3:24-25. The evidence that Calvinism's "total spiritual inability" doctrine is mistaken is overwhelming. Unregenerate people have enough spiritual ability that the Law (OT scripture) can escort or lead them to Christ.

 

Until you address what I've posted (concerning my exegesis of Galatians 3:24-25 versus yours), your arguments are invalid and your repeated assertions along with the rest of your logically fallacious claims are ignored.

 

Apostle paul called them to be "like" those in the flesh, as they were sticj stuck as mere babes in Christ, and not growing to maturity in Him!

he never called them flesh in the sense as being unsaved, but that they were acting out of their flesh by stunting their growth and being tosses around and holding unto different so called truths!

Same person stated to us that natural men, lost, cannot even receive any spirtual truth from the bible, so?

 

No Yeshua1, that is not what Paul said. If you rewrite scripture, you place your beliefs in yourself, or in your doctrinal agenda. Before we grow, under the nurture of the Holy Spirit, so we can handle spiritual meat, we are only able to understand and receive spiritual milk. Men of flesh can also understand and receive spiritual milk. But that is contrary to Calvinism so you deny what 1 Cor. 3:1 teaches.

 

Lets consider what is the new birth. It is being born anew. When we were conceived in iniquity, we were conceived in a separated from God spiritually dead state. When we are born anew, we are made alive together with Christ, i.e. no longer in a separated from God state. It is a spiritual rebirth. The new birth is our spiritual regeneration, as we were originated spiritually dead, but with the rebirth we are originated again, spiritually alive.

Where does our new birth occur? In Christ! When God spiritually transfers us from the realm of darkness into the kingdom of His Son, we are made alive, reborn, regenerated, made holy and blameless, and indwelt with the Holy Spirit.

 

It is always important to consider what a verse or passage is actually teaching. Take Proverbs 12:18, "In the way of righteousness is life,
And in its pathway there is no death." Who is the Way, the Truth, and the Life? Jesus Christ! God sets before us life or death and beseeches us to choose life, i.e. put our trust in Christ. Whoever believes in Him shall not perish but have eternal life.

Then lets take a look at Romans 5:19, " For as through the one man’s disobedience the many were made sinners, even so through the obedience of the One the many will be made righteous. Did Christ's death make anyone righteous? Nope. His death provides the promise that many will be made righteous, when God credits their faith as righteousness and transfers them spiritually into Christ. That is when they undergo the circumcision of Christ and are made righteous.

How about Romans 5:18? "So then as through one transgression there resulted condemnation to all men, even so through one act of righteousness there resulted justification of life to all men." Were all men justified by the death of Christ? Nope. But instead scripture teaches His death provided justification of life to all men. He died for all mankind.

Bottom line, study scripture and consider what it actually teaches, that we are reborn in Christ, as new creatures, created for good works. We were spiritually dead before God put us spiritually in Christ, but together with Christ we were made alive, regenerated, born anew, justified, made holy and blameless.

 

What part of will be made righteous do you not understand. Will be refers to a future activity. Christ's death provided a future where many will be made righteous. Your view puts the cart before the horse.

The issue is not Christ's obedience. Here is what Philippians 2:8 says, " Being found in appearance as a man, He humbled Himself by becoming obedient to the point of death, even death of the cross."

Presuppositions blind many to the truth set before them.

Christ's obedience resulted in His death on the cross. Christ's death resulted in providing justification of life to all men. When our faith in Christ is credited as righteousness by God alone, God puts us in Christ spiritually, where we undergo the circumcision of Christ, and arise in Christ a new creation, holy and blameless, washed by His blood, shed for us.

 

Van - Remember that SBM believes in eternal justification. People are born saved/righteous/sinless etc., and conversely people are born damned and hopeless.

I can only assume SBM's chosen church does not evangelize, as there is no point in evangelism, given his theological leanings.

 

Note this was posted after I posted this:

Did Christ's death make anyone righteous? Nope. His death provides the promise that many will be made righteous, when God credits their faith as righteousness and transfers them spiritually into Christ. That is when they undergo the circumcision of Christ and are made righteous.

Folks, all you have to do is just read Romans 5:19, and ignore those who question the commitment to scripture of others.

 

Once again all Calvinism has to offer are slanderous attacks on me personally. Did I say Christ's death did not make people righteous in the future, i.e. after His death, when people receive the reconciliation provided by His death. Nope.

But the systematic effort to misrepresent my view continues. This is what I said that was edited out of the above quote:

Christ's obedience resulted in His death on the cross. Christ's death resulted in providing justification of life to all men. When our faith in Christ is credited as righteousness by God alone, God puts us in Christ spiritually, where we undergo the circumcision of Christ, and arise in Christ a new creation, holy and blameless, washed by His blood, shed for us.

But after I post this SBM posts "Van falsely says that Christ death didn't make anyone righteous...."

So rather than discuss scripture, we get disparagement. Go figure

 

Does Romans 5:19 say the many are made righteous by Christ's obedience alone? Nope.

Here is what I said:

And here is how SBM edited it:

It is pointless to continue....