Featured free will vs. election???????

Ok, thanks I'm confused. I thought earlier on he used the verse "If I be lifted up I will draw all men to myself", I couldn't find the post though. I was thinking he implied that even after sent to hell God would still save those sent there.

I'll hang up and listen, leave it to you big dawgs to handle. :applause:

 

The passage speaking of the wicked servant/slave is speaking of the degree of punishment in hell for unbelievers. The more knowledge one has of the gospel yet rejects it, the harsher the punishment will be. Your interpretation is way off!

 

You are angry.......because I was absolutely corrected by a woman.

You feel a sense of RAGE in your nasty little heart because I listened to the correction of a woman over an above YOU.

Your Misoginy is YOUR problem........not mine.........

AMY............explained where I was wrong..........and YOU couldn't.

Amy is the Deborah to YOU ..............you are the sissy Barak.

You are "Barak".........Amy is "Deborah".........

And Amy is twice the man either YOU or I am in this debate.

Quit while you are ahead......

Arrogance. Sheer Arrogance.

 

Figurative langauge: Except you eat of My flesh and drink of My blood, you have no life in you. Now, this isn't literal whatsoever, except you believe Jesus is promoting cannibalism.

Literal language: If you will confess the Lord Jesus, and believe that God has raised Him from the dead, you shall be saved. For with the heart, man believes unto righteousness, and with the mouth, confession is made unto salvation. This is a set in stone literal truth.

Again, brush up on the differences betwixt the two.

 

So what??? It doesn't have a thing to do with saints suffering in hell!!! Whether for "age lasting" or one second!

 

let me ask you another question--the servant had 1 talent--does the Lord give every unbeliever talents and expects them to work with them--and rewards them when he comes back and let them enter into the joy of the lord according to what they have done with their talents ?

 

Before anyone answers this, please answer our queston: Are you a Millienial Exclusionist or not?

 

im getting there if you will stop interrupting our discussion--I know you are trying to trap me and are not interested in the truth--pls let the conversation continue--lets see what the text really means ?

 

Stop the presses! This is a first! I'm a woman and I wasn't wrong! It wasn't my fault!

Woo hoooooo!

:laugh:

 

IOW, 'please don't expose me yet, I am in covert operation'.

 

Bless you heart. Your thread got totally hijacked. But we'll get another started if you don't get your answers here.

 

your still side stepping the issue-- the word FOREVER was used and it plainly is not what you say it is in this text and you are trying to buy your way out friend:godisgood::godisgood:

 

It's a parable! Do not make doctrine from parables. All creation is God's servant! That is what Jesus is saying!

It's like asking "who do you say Jesus is?" What did you do with God's word? What did you do with the gospel?

 

so you are saying all men are given talents by god and are expected to use them for the glory of god and be rewarded according how they use them when he returns ?

 

every parable is a window to see truth--lets see if we can see the truth this parable is showing

 

if you are saying all lost men have gifts given to them of God and expected to use them for his glory--and be rewarded for how they use them at his return--then that is plain and simple WORKS for salvation.

On the other hand if you say God gave Gifts to his elect upon leaving and expects them to use them wisely for his glory and be rewarded on how they use them at his coming--then you have salvation by grace and rewards according to their worksor their building upon the foundation that was laid(which was Christ)Paul said--So you are ending up with all 3 servants being his elect and giving account at his return---this is the truth behind this parable :godisgood::godisgood:

also notice all 3 were judged at the same time--so this is the judgement seat of Christ not the great white throne judgement--theres a difference

 

:godisgood::godisgood:

well said brother--that is the only way you will understand--may god shine his light upon you and grant thee truth--you will be prayed for:godisgood:

 

HeirofSalvation

Not to burst your bubble big guy, but I clearly said that this was the goodness of God...and not the saving love of God which is only found in Christ. maybe your new friendship with Dr.Lies....has infected you.:thumbs:

by the way..I saw the post you deleted and how you now ...speak for me:laugh:
Why not let awaken ask me what i think, instead of you inventing what you think I will say....

like i did with the "good Dr.'" i will now do for you and your ungodly accusations....here is what i actually said;

the bible describes God as being good to all men....the rain shines upon the just and the unjust.
We are also told that the goodness of God is meant to lead men to repentance.
We are told to love our enemies, so in that way it is also an expression of God's love to all men.

That however is NOT...the saving love of God which the bible ONLY SAYS is found IN CHRIST....for example;

So...why lie HOS??? Do you see what I said now Hos???
the rest of my post#96...clearly shows that ICON SEES In scripture the Love of God...the saving love of God is ONLY IN CHRIST.
I do not backtrack or back down from what i post...so you try to twist what i say....got it:thumbs:

i said goodness....

let Icon say what Icon thinks....I let you foam at the mouth with your obscure nonsense...that is on you...

Very touching philosophy...not at all scriptural...but very moving:wavey:

If they look at post 96...they will see who is lying to obscure the clear teaching being offered.

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If the God I worship..wanted everyone to be saved...everyone would be saved.....
Everyone who My Lord wants saved is saved.....he seeks and saves, none are lost..Not one. It is not Calvinist schema...it is the Covenant of Redemption between the members of the Godhead.
Those known as Calvinists believe God on this...you do not.

I answered what was asked.Not what you imagine.

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Icon does not think in these evil terms as Hos would like you to imagine.in fact Icon believes God saves as many persons as His holy knowledge and wisdom determined to save, and contrary to the false claims in the now deleted post...here is the truth about what the scripture says about what team jihad says are a select 'few"....
Genesis 22:17
That in blessing I will bless thee, and in multiplying I will multiply thy seed as the stars of the heaven, and as the sand which is upon the sea shore; and thy seed shall possess the gate of his enemies;

I heard a scientist on the radio who was a christian say that in one pail of sand there are millions of grains of sand....so all the stars,and all the sand in the sea.....does not sound like a few to me.....

I will answer any question on any topic.

More garbage from Hos....but icon has just indicated the biblical testimony on this....look at this garbage being offered now by these people here, instead of biblical truth...
One guy says the book of Hebrews is not for christians, but tribulation saints,lol ..and Hos is making a fool of himself here....because of frustration and lack of truth here...

yes..the op asked for those who believe these things to explain it...not those in unbelief..like the fowls of the air, they come to steal away the seed.

write it out on paper..or print it out...look at the difference of what is posted.

these guys are just trying to disrupt, not add to the discussion..that is why they are clueless on this.

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You try and make it that way however,because you cannot quite answer ..can you?

Here is the ALL people that Jesus died for with a Covenant LOVE

10 For it became him, for whom are all things, and by whom are all things, in bringing many sons unto glory, to make the captain of their salvation perfect through sufferings.

11 For both he that sanctifieth and they who are sanctified are all of one: for which cause he is not ashamed to call them brethren,

12 Saying, I will declare thy name unto my brethren, in the midst of the church will I sing praise unto thee.

13 And again, I will put my trust in him. And again, Behold I and the children which God hath given me.

14 Forasmuch then as the children are partakers of flesh and blood, he also himself likewise took part of the same; that through death he might destroy him that had the power of death, that is, the devil;

15 And deliver them who through fear of death were all their lifetime subject to bondage.

16 For verily he took not on him the nature of angels; but he took on him the seed of Abraham.

17 Wherefore in all things it behoved him to be made like unto his brethren, that he might be a merciful and faithful high priest in things pertaining to God, to make reconciliation for the sins of the people


37 All that the Father giveth me shall come to me; and him that cometh to me I will in no wise cast out.

38 For I came down from heaven, not to do mine own will, but the will of him that sent me.

39 And this is the Father's will which hath sent me, that of all which he hath given me I should lose nothing, but should raise it up again at the last day
or whether God "loves" all people...........and demand that he tell you the answer in a direct, simple and straight-forward manner.

Your plan has God not saving who he wants.
What I believe has God saving everyone that Jesus said he would, those given to Him.
Thanks so much for trying to project those twisted ideas that you say that I think.I think I know what I think better than you do.