Free Will compatible with Sovereignty

The spirit is willing, but the flesh is weak. This only points to weak will, not no will. There are levels of weakness, ranging from temptation to addiction. Addiction is slavery.

 

He wouldn't want to do otherwise. Therefore, His Will is both perfect and free.

You still haven't defined freedom. Perhaps if you define freedom, we might get somewhere.

 

The reason why God cannot do evil (and why one who is born of God does not abide in sin) is because of love. Evil is the result of not loving. Love becomes a slave/servant willingly. It is not bound, but free. Free to serve. Hatred is enslavement. Love is Liberty

Jesus Willingly submitted to His Father, not by coersion, but in love. Jesus became a servant to the ones He called brethren out of Love. The Holy Spirit does not speak of Himself, but of Christ, out of love. We submit to God three in one because we love Him, and we love Him because He first loved us. The servant who had His ear pierced with an awl freely chose remaining with His Master

So love becomes a slave and gives up freedoms, but it does so freely. Love makes a willing servant. Love is not bondage, BUT THE GREATEST LIBERTY OF ALL

God is love, Christ is love, and if the love of Christ sets you free, you are free indeed.

God cannot act contrary to love and justice which is a corollary to perfect love. But love and justice equal perfect liberty. They are the scepters and pillars of Christ's Kingdom. A kingdom ruled and governed by love

 

All I know is that I never heard a preacher preach the Gospel. Didn't hear nothing 'bout no doctrine. I read the Bible and chose to do as it said and been saved since.

I think man merely needs to want to be Saved, God performs the rest. I'm satisfied with being Born-Again, and leave the rest to God.

There's a good song, if I recall, by the Stanley brothers that talks about it:

I can tell you now the time,
I can take you to the place
Where the Lord saved me by His wonderful grace
But I can not tell you how (for I know not the how) and I can not tell you why (and I know not the why)
But He'll tell me all about it (He will tell me all about it) in the by and by (in the by and by)

 

Thats why I asked previously tell us when God parted sky showed up, proclaimed you were elect, and the shock of doing something good for the first time.

 

Some spontaneous Calvinist appeared from the waka-waka tribe who has never heard of Jesus Christ.

Things you never hear happen.

 

The woman that contemplates aborting her baby but chooses to give birth, chooses life. That is sinning in your theology.



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Whatever is not of faith, or for God's glory is sin.

 

Yep, great use of context there. Right up there with "I can do all things through Christ which strengthens me."

We might as well throw away the 10 commandments and other admonishments against sin since EVERY SINGLE THING we do without faith, i.e. sleep, is a sin.

 

Deciding to have a baby vs. aborting a baby is a choice. In your theology having the baby is sin.

 

Why are we here, then? Why weren't we just created angels in the first place?

Why did God let Moses argue with Him? Why did God let Lot argue with him?

 

You just changed the subject, though. I am sure you are not being intentionally deceptive, because that would be a sin, and you have no free will to be capable of sin. No temptation. I'm sure when you reply you only do it for the glory of God. So the only possible explanation is that you missed my point. So I will make it again.

The spirit is willing, but the flesh is weak. This points to weak will, not no will. There are levels of weakness, ranging from temptation to addiction. Addiction is slavery.

This was a response to your saying that people are slaves to their nature.

Would you still respond the same way? If so, how would it be consistent with the verse that the spirit is willing but the flesh is weak? (Not the flesh is enslaved.)