Jesus Marvelled At Unblief! Why?

And Jesus seeing their faith said to the paralytic, “Son, your sins are forgiven.” But some of the scribes were sitting there and reasoning in their hearts, “Why does this man speak that way? He is blaspheming; who can forgive sins but God alone?” Immediately Jesus, aware in His spirit that they were reasoning that way within themselves, said to them, “Why are you reasoning about these things in your hearts?”[Mark 2:5-8] The Christ knew what they were reasoning(saying) in their hearts, and asked them a question. By using your (il)logic, He asked not knowing why.

 

“But of that day and hour no one knows, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father."
Mark 13:32 NKJV


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https://bible.org/question/does-jes...ll-only-gods-knowledge-stated-matt-2436-and-m


https://carm.org/if-jesus-god-then-why-did-he-not-know-time-his-return

 

Oh, now the Christ knew via divine revelation from His Father. As I stated, you are an open theist.

 

Rockson;
I believe He marveled because He was right in front of them. Even though these men had studied the Word they did not recognized Jesus as God. They did not recognize Him because they were blinded by of their rejection of Him as the Messiah.
MB

 

In other words it means that all people are as bad as they could possibly be.


If you cannot do ACTUAL GOOD have no ACTUAL LOVE then you are always as bad as you can be.

Folks going to have a fun time forking up Calvinist dictionary. where ALL means SOME. They can tell you to your face that God LOVES someone but its not a 1st class divine love, its a 2nd class evil love.

Not a 1st class happy faith, but a 2nd class junky faith.

Or a GOOD WORK isn't a 1st class good work but a FAKE evil work.

Anything done devoid of love of God and neighbor is flat out evil.


Focus on can a person do TRUE GOOD? If you cannot do anything TRUE GOOD, then you are as bad as you possibly could be.

If a person's motivation is not GOD in everything they do, they are as bad as they could possibly be.


When Adam and Eve fell God mentions a list of punishments that fall on man. But he forgot to mention the one punishment that makes all the others look like Disneyland. That you are incapable of Loving God and Neighbor

 

Its easy to clear up. Your response may fly if someone declared "well if we are totally depraved why doesn't everyone just run around murdering folks?"

Then I can understand "well people are not bad as possibly be because God put some guard rails".

Even then the assumption is murder is the worst sin rather then disobedience of God.


Folk have different categories of "BAD" and "GOOD".

Are all men capable of doing things that are Good in the eyes of God?

If its not GOOD in the eyes of God can we say this is evil?

You might even tell me "ALL MANKIND DESERVES HELL" That doesn't register as being as bad as they can possibly be?

Can we say "Man is utterly unable to choose to follow God, refrain from evil, or accept the gift of salvation as it is offered."?

If person can't follow God they are precisely as bad as they could be and that sin tops ALL other sins.

Show me this sin that is greater then denial, disobedience and rebellion against God.

You don't need to murder or burn a house down to be as evil as you can possibly be, a cut away from God, no choice of God, no desire of God, that is PERFECTLY EVIL.


I don't believe the statement was thought through well enough.

You are going to have to tell me Man cannot choose or desire God. He must be predestined by God.

 

Good ol' mankind. Doesn't need rebirth, just a little repair work here and there.

 

The guy you're arguing with is wiser in his own eyes than seven men who can give a reason.

 

Jesus said the sick need a physician, not an undertaker.

If corruption were total nothing good in the eyes of God, there would be nothing there to save nor would God have anything there to Love.

 

"Once again you demonstrate a remarkable lack of understanding."

Maybe you need to pray more so God will flip the Gnostic switch on.

"has remained untouched by the fall and thus able to approach God on its own merit."

^I didn't know that. I expected you to say NOT able to approach God.


My challenge is denial of God equates to "BEING AS BAD AS POSSIBLY CAN BE" Commandment #1 is broke.

Name one sin greater than not able to approach God.

 

He did. He said, and that no part of man, [..] (is) able to approach God on its own merit.

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See this is the attitude that was displayed by White when he debated flowers. White lost just because of his attitude alone. Just because someone does not agree with you doesn't make them like a blind man. Such claims are arrogant, ungodly, and unbecoming a Christian.