Featured What is Total Depravity, part deux?

Yes, it does.

Exactly. God's children had no part in their rebirth just as we had no part in our own births.

Exactly. Gospel preaching is the means God uses to dispense His grace to the hearers.

Yes. By the Grace imparted in regeneration a sinner is enabled to confess and believe.

Exactly. The Gospel call is used by God to draw the sinner unto Himself.

The Gospel is the message. Grace is what saves.

Belief is the result of regenerating Grace.

The message is the good news of Christ's work on our behalf. Grace is what saves us. "For by Grace you are saved . . . "

You may want to reconsider accusing me of not believing the Gospel is sufficient.

 

As you very well know he and I believe pretty much the same. Don't try to wiggle out of your post, made in an open forum.

You really don't want to go there. Really.

You really should stick to the discussion and not make untrue accusations about me or other board members. It will not end well.

I believe my sinful nature is at enmity against God, and that the regenerating Grace of God, the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus has made me free from the law of sin and death. And it is that giving me new life in Christ that is God turning me from my bondage to sin to my being bound to the law of new Life in Christ.

Why do you ask such questions? Are you trying to get your posts reported?

 

God's grace enables us to believe, repent, and obey.
Let me turn your question back to you. Do you believe an unbeliever believes? Can a lost person believe? Where does Grace fit into your system? Can you believe apart from God's enabling Grace?

 

When "reality" contradicts the word of God, "reality" is not real, but a deception.

And please, for the last time, stop the personal attacks. Not agreeing on your part does not constitute cognitive dissonance on my part.

When you said "Do you think sin is more beautiful than God?" you know I don't and the comment was a back door attack on my faith in God.

Regeneration, in the context of Christianity is a "new beginning." If the Holy Spirit and the word of God's ministry is not the basis of the "new beginning" - of the "new life in Christ" then what is? If a person has already turned away from his sin and turned to Christ as Savior and believes and repents why does he need to be regenerated. It looks to me as if he already has the "new beginning." Yet Christ said without regeneration a man can't see (perceive, know, understand) the Kingdom of God. So, again, what good is regeneration if you already perceive, know, and understand those spiritual things?

 

Yes, but I can articulate what I believe and post scripture that supports it.

Can you explain to me what good is regeneration if you already perceive, know, and understand spiritual things? What is the purpose of that "new beginning" if you are already well on your way?

And that is what is so troubling. You can't seem to articulate what good is regeneration if you already perceive, know, and understand those spiritual things?

Yes, he is (already) regenerated because the unregenerate man cannot know these things. The very fact that he does believe them means he has already had his "new beginning" and now believes. You have cause and effect reversed. He does not have a new beginning because he had something he didn't have. He has a new beginning which enables him to know these things.

Romans 8:7 Because the carnal mind is enmity against God: for it is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be.