All are saved by grace.

First of all, a proper translation of Gal. 5:22 uses the word faithfulness, not faith, as a fruit of the Spirit. This indicates that saving faith in not what is being described.

Secondly, anybody can exhibit love, joy, peace, longsuffering, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness, and self-control for a little while. This verse is about the degree and consistency of exhibiting these fruits of the Spirit.

 

Just to clarify--are you saying that ONLY saved, born again people can show longsuffering? Only saved, born again people can be gentle?

 

I've been looking for a person who told me that I would be his servant in heaven. I believe this is what Mormons believe about those who are not active in there ward as they call churches.
MB

 

Catholics believe we are saved by faith, just not faith alone.

You say faith is work, so you don't actually believe in FAITH ALONE do you?

You don't believe faith saves at all, faith is just a product of being saved.

 

Unless one, for what ever reason, first repents [changes one's mind or view], it is impossible to believe anything one has not already believed!

 

Not talking about translations. Talking about Greek. The Greek does not say that "faith" is a fruit of the spirit. It says that faithfulness is a fruit of the Spirit.

You need to find the honesty and the courage to face up to that fact. The Bible makes it clear that we are saved by faith, meaning that the faith a sinner exercises in accepting the Gospel is sufficient for salvation.

You have an errant theology that is not based on the Bible.

 

Wrong. God does not save us before we believe, before we put faith in Jesus. I think it is worth noting that no one is buying the snake oil you're selling.

 

So according to you, one must first be gullible and then believe so one can have the excuse to say one has changed one's mind.

And, oh, Jesus must, according to you, have His instruction backwards, ". . . repent ye, and believe the gospel. . . ."

 

I bought my biblical car with spiritual cash.

The distinction "Biblical faith" is not biblical.

Just sticking religious sounding words in front of everything doesn't make it holy.

Faith is just Faith.

 

In my case, I was under conviction of my sin. I had believed my good works would be weighed against the bad and God would judge on that basis. I believe Holy Spirit showed me clearly how bad my sin was. I asked God to take my life, that I wouldnt sin against Him anymore. It was then that I remembered what I had heard and read about Jesus dying on the cross for my sin. For the first time i understood that faith in Jesus would cover my sin. It was then that I believed.

Do you believe I was regenerate before I believed? What role in the regeneration "process" does the "drawing" and conviction of Holy Spirit occur?