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Featured NIV vs. ESV, Part 2

Discussion in 'Bible Versions & Translations' started by InTheLight, Sep 23, 2014.

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    For a formal equivalence translation, the ESV certainly issues a lot of updates!
     
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    Its an "essentially formal " translation, and its main problem is tries to read as well as Niv, and to be as accurate as Nas, but stuck in between!
     
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    2 Peter 2:1

    But there were also false prophets among the people, just as there will be false teachers among you. They will secretly introduce destructive heresies, even denying the sovereign Lord who bought them—bringing swift destruction on themselves.
    [NIV]

    But false prophets also arose among the people, just as there will be false teachers among you, who will secretly bring in destructive heresies, even denying the Master who bought them, bringing upon themselves swift destruction. [ESV]

    Compare:
    KJV: "the Lord"
    NKJV: "the Lord"
     
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    Between the NAS and the ESV, which do you prefer?
     
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    The literary consultants were not trying to make it read like the NIV. They wanted the feel of the KJV while being as accurate as possible.

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    Do you believe they attained their goal?
     
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    I'm about a third of the way through it. We've been doing studies on individuals at the Friday night Bible study I attend, and we're currently on Solomon. I was asked to read out of Proverbs chapter 4, and it was a little clunky.
     
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    Thank you for giving us an example from your personal experience.
     
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    Compared to others such as the NASB,NIV and NLT, the ESV certainly in regards to rythm, prose poetry, vocabulary level and aphoristic quality is much more KJV like.



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    The Nas 1977 edition
     
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    true, as that is what was a saving grace for it, as it does read like modernized Kjv in many ways.
     
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    I have fond memories of a Ryrie Study Bible, New Testament (hardcover edition) in the 1977 NASB that I had. (Don't know what became of it.) Fantastic resource!
     
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    Ah. That's certainly a plus for those transitioning from the KJV.
     
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    I'm almost afraid to purchase an ESV in book form, because if they publish another update in four years or whatever, I'll be a little frustrated! Lol
     
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    I'm discovering on my own that you're so right about this!
     
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    "Lean the mud off" huh? You need to honor God's Word, not demean it. There may be American Indian tribes with translations that are far inferior, to English Bible translations --but they are still God's Holy Word.
     
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    I am in complete agreement with you on this matter!

    Indeed, I do believe it may even bring us very close to a line we do not wish to cross: namely, blasphemy.
     
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    Spoken like a Rykenite. ;-)
     
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    The "literary consultants" were working at cross purposes to achieve such disparate goals.
     
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    ...says the guy who elevates the NIV nearly to the level of divine inspiration. :)

    Welcome back brother.

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