Featured Humans Do Not Generate Their Own Faith

This is why we need to know and accept our limitations, as do not appeal to Greek and Hebrew unless one really knows what it means!

 

There is no such thing as "Biblical Languages" the way that expression is scholastically understood today.

The Holy Spirit himself prophesied that one day he would speak to the Jews in a language other than Hebrew.

Isa 28:11 For with stammering lips and another tongue will he speak to this people.

Evidently, since the "other tongue" is spoken of the Lord, then the "other tongue" is by definition given by inspiration.

Christians have simply been regurgitating the 19th Century Higher Criticism Humanistic view of the Bible rather than learn their doctrine of inspiration from the words of the book itself.

 

The Spirit inspired the very words of scriptures into Biblical Hebrew and Greek, so why should we not seek to glean understanding from those very words he chose to use there?
So someone studying just English translation can learn more then someone who also knows those languages and uses original language texts and tools?

 

They seemed to have made a permanent decision to rebel and go against God!

 

Acts 26.19
Whereupon, O king Agrippa, I was not disobedient unto the heavenly vision:
implies Paul could have chosen to be disobedient.

 

What you may be hung up on is the philosophy of Calvinism . lay that aside and what if God said that it pleased God to save those that stood on their head , wouldn't we just have to accept that as true ? . Well its the same with 1 cor 1.21 .

 

And yet Luke could have easily said ' and as many as were ordained by God " But he didn't did he ? Because calvinism and context never go together, not once . They miss this fact . They miss also verse ( Acts 13 )
42¶And when the Jews were gone out of the synagogue, the Gentiles besought that these words might be preached to them the next sabbath. They chose to hear again .
then in contrast in verse 46 we see 46Then Paul and Barnabas waxed bold, and said, It was necessary that the word of God should first have been spoken to you: but seeing ye put it from you, and judge yourselves unworthy of everlasting life, lo, we turn to the Gentiles.
Interesting how these reprobates are Judging themselves unworthy.
Then as if Luke knew how every non Calvinist who doesn't get triggered by the buzz word ' ordained ' is ready after reading the context and especially verse 46 ,to understand 48 as being the Gentiles did not judge themselves unworthy of ever lasting life and actually believed salvation was for them to attained . And as many as inclined / disposed believed .
I'm all ears as to your explanation using similar context from Acts 13 as to how you personally arrive at your interpretation to mean " And as many as God chose to be saved before the Foundation of the World, God caused them to believe " . Which it actually does not say . See no greek there needed . But the greek does prove my position not calvinism.

 

You saying a demon OUGHT to believe God has atoned for their sins?

You are tying to make FAITH a magical word. It is not. It is our trust confidence. Evidence of things unseen. hebrews 11


"Nowhere do we read of fallen angels having faith."

James 2

19You believe that God is one. You do well; the demons also believe, and shudder.

The entire point of this verse is to show you demons have faith.




Mark 5

6Seeing Jesus from a distance, he ran up and bowed down before Him; 7and shouting with a loud voice, he said, “What business do we have with each other, Jesus, Son of the Most High God? I implore You by God, do not torment me!” 8For He had been saying to him, “Come out of the man, you unclean spirit!” 9And He was asking him, “What is your name?” And he said to Him, “My name is Legion; for we are many.” 10And he began to implore Him earnestly not to send them out of the country. 11Now there was a large herd of swine feeding nearby on the mountain. 12The demons implored Him, saying, “Send us into the swine so that we may enter them.” 13Jesus gave them permission. And coming out, the unclean spirits entered the swine; and the herd rushed down the steep bank into the sea, about two thousand of them; and they were drowned in the sea.


Here right away the demon LEGION BOWS before Jesus, IMMEDIATELY believes he is SON OF GOD.

What does the Demon do? HE PRAYS! He asks Jesus not to torment him, He REQUESTS for Jesus to send them to the heard of swine.

Jesus could have said NOPE off to hell with you. VERSE 13 JESUS GAVE THEM PERMISSION.

Whats sad here is DEMON who hates Jesus CAN TRUST JESUS WITH A REQUEST, CAN YOU?

If this demon had no faith he wouldn't of even have bothered.

 

Really?! Consider this:

[23] The same day Sadducees came to him, who say that there is no resurrection, and they asked him a question, [24] saying, “Teacher, Moses said, ‘If a man dies having no children, his brother must marry the widow and raise up offspring for his brother.’ [25] Now there were seven brothers among us. The first married and died, and having no offspring left his wife to his brother. [26] So too the second and third, down to the seventh. [27] After them all, the woman died. [28] In the resurrection, therefore, of the seven, whose wife will she be? For they all had her.”

[29] But Jesus answered them, “You are wrong, because you know neither the Scriptures nor the power of God. [30] For in the resurrection they neither marry nor are given in marriage, but are like angels in heaven. [31] And as for the resurrection of the dead, have you not read what was said to you by God: [32] ‘I am the God of Abraham, and the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob’? He is not God of the dead, but of the living.” [33] And when the crowd heard it, they were astonished at his teaching. (Matthew 22:23–33 ESV)​

Interestingly, Jesus goes to the grammar of the Hebrew to explain that God "is" the God of the living." Had the dead ceased to exist (ie. if there were no resurrection) God would have introduced Himself to Moses as "I was the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob.." Jesus hangs His interpretation of the passage on the tense of the verb in Hebrew and He supports the doctrine of the resurrection with the grammar of the Hebrew text. So, Jesus' use of scripture here stands against you.

The Archangel

 

The Greek actually does imply that God does the ordaining--it's called "The Divine Passive." Notice, however, you have shifted the goalposts of the argument. Your original argument is that the Gentiles appointed themselves, which clearly the grammar won't allow for. The issue of who appointed them is further down the field. The use of the passive means the Gentiles didn't appoint themselves, again... that much is clear. If you reject the idea of the divine passive, however, you are left to ask: Who but God can appoint to eternal life? So, clearly, Luke is exactly saying "and as many as were ordained by God." So the text is saying--almost exactly--"And as many as God chose to be saved before the Foundation of the World, God caused them to believe."

On to another issue of logic... You disparage the right use of Greek in my posts while making rather feeble attempts to use Greek in your posts. So, which is it? Is Greek bad or not? Is it helpful or not? That you cited Strong's shows you want to believe it is helpful; that you reject my use of it as unhelpful tells me volumes. You want to see the Greek only when you think it supports your position and only when it is haphazardly wielded by you, not someone who actually knows how to use it. So, you should choose: If Greek is bad, be consistent and stop trying to use it in your posts; if it is helpful, learn from those who know it and can use it rightly. The choice is yours, but to do what you're doing now is hypocritical.

The Archangel

 

As far as faith comes from hearing the word of God.
Rom 10:17 So then faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God..
MB

 

There is no greek calvinists. Thats why there was no fooling them with all not meaning all.

 

You can believe what you want but IMHO God does not call people who are not going to be obedient.

Abraham believed because God called him unto belief. God was going to bring, The Obedient One, The Son of God into the world as the seed of Abraham. Christ, the seed of Abraham would be the faith of Abraham.

To Abraham and his seed, singular, Christ, was the promises made.

Abraham died not having received the promises. Abraham is still dead not having received the promises. He will receive them but he hasn't yet, Heb 11:39 they without us should not be made perfect. By the same token, we shall not precede them unto perfection, 1 Thes 4:15

The promises pertains to incorruptible life and to date, one and One only, born of woman has received the promise.

God calls sheep, read John 10.

 

Jonah 1

1The word of the LORD came to Jonah the son of Amittai saying, 2“Arise, go to Nineveh the great city and cry against it, for their wickedness has come up before Me.” 3But Jonah rose up to flee to Tarshish from the presence of the LORD. So he went down to Joppa, found a ship which was going to Tarshish, paid the fare and went down into it to go with them to Tarshish from the presence of the LORD.

 

What does this even mean?

The Archangel

 

Like if you go to Greece. Why aren't they all Calvinists?

You would think Greeks know Greek better than anyone else.

Like if you give them something in koine greek they can figure it out.

Juss Li-ake U kan Feegor Dis Owt.