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Featured Are Human Beings Born Sinners?

Discussion in 'Baptist Theology & Bible Study' started by SavedByGrace, Feb 17, 2021.

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    SavedByGrace Well-Known Member

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    What are you on about
     
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    Hope not, as both Calvinists and Non cals have agreed to call that view heresy!
     
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    Did God permit multitude of infants and children to die in the Flood?
     
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    Answering your question, as God himself gets angry without ever sinning!
     
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    Did I say the Bible was wrong? No, you read that into what I said. I said, knowing right and wrong has nothing to do with whether or not something is sin.
     
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    His arguments are very much in line with Pelagian and I don't think he even realizes it.
     
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    Don't talk rubbish
     
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    It seems that he holds that we will not be accounted guilty as being sinners before God until we actually made a decision to sin!
     
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    One child is wrong and the other right. Why do you suppose that there is any anger or hate involved
     
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    How do you know both are not in the wrong? And so one child is capable of sinning and the other not in your view? I'm confused.
     
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    none of the answers here have dealt with the account of David's son
     
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    Your point being
     
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    The account of David's son honestly has nothing to do with this topic. It is POSSIBLE the son is in Heaven. But that is not the only possibility of David's statement based on culture of that time. You must allow for the possibility that David was not referring to Heaven.

    You must also have enough integrity to recant your statement that David was celebrating because the text does not say that.
     
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    Deal with what I actually wrote. Stop dodging.
     
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    was David possibly referring to hell?
     
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    baby was a sinner, guilty in Adam, but God showed Him His saving grace!
     
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    They are fighting due to being selfish and coveting!
     
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