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That only stopped in the last 150 years. Before, they did. Think of the old days going back to the lady's in church with the fancy hats or Easter bonnets.

 

I think there are in fact important contexts in which Paul was writing. Of course he was influenced by the OT, but was he not also influenced by the Hellenistic world in which he was writing? The NT is clearly the convergence of the Jewish and Hellenistic worlds. Even the person to whom Paul was corresponding (Timothy) was himself a sort of image of this, as Timothy was the son of Greek gentile father and Greek-speaking Jewish mother.

The other context I think is missing is the stage of Christianity at this point in history.

Do these things not play any role in our understanding the text?

 

I am not arguing, but I am curious, if two or more are considered the church, where does that leave women on internet forums?

 

Where do you get two or more being a Church?

 

My dad used to say this all the time. Haha

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So you don't see a pastor as a Bishop? Women can be Bishops?

 

It's interesting that if we take a strictly literal interpretation of the office of elders, then neither Paul nor Timothy could hold that position since they had no spouse nor children that had been raised as an example of their leadership skills.

Here in lies the heart of a legalist, when they cannot conceive of God working outside the bounds of their legalism.

For centuries women have gone out onto the mission field to preach to the unreached through their actions and words. Churches have been established and men trained in the gospel...by women.
Where were the men? Too busy working for a buck in corporate America?
Again, women can, but men should.
And when men have this role, they must be humble and gentle rather than treat the flock as though the flock were slaves and they the task masters over them.
Scarlett is accurate in her portrait of many pastors and indeed of some who post in this thread.

 

Can a woman teach a man?

 

First, you shouldn't ask Paul's intent. You should ask what the Spirit meant when He inspired Paul to write.

 

No your comment wasn't. It is a typical liberal non-argument similar to when people cite Leviticus to show that sodomy is a sin, and someone like you will say "do you wear a mixed garment, or eat shellfish?" It is a blatant misrepresentation of the word so as to try and win an argument.

 

Matthew 18:20

This is the understanding I've been taught, if I am wrong, feel free to correct me.

Matthew 18:20 Meaning of Where Two or More Are Gathered

 

From scripture? Absolutely yes. My mom was a great teacher.
Nancy Guthrie's material on seeing Jesus in the Old Testament is excellent. You would learn a lot from her teaching. Moreso, Nancy humbly submits herself under men as leaders, not because she can't teach, but because men in her life are Godly, kind, and humble leaders.

The horrible thing in the church is the arrogant man who thinks all should bow to his rule.

 

I am not saying you are wrong, but I don't see it.

 

I Tim 2:12

 

Did Paul ever correct Prisca for teaching Apollos?

Women teach all the time. Walk into your average Sunday school class and see if there are women teaching it.

Again, who cares? In 20 years, a robot will probably be preaching and teaching. This is only problematic if there is something more to the actual office described in the New Testament. If this is the case, then the Catholics and Orthodox are on to something.

 

I’m still waiting for your deep dive into the Greek to prove your statement that Paul’s instructions in 1 Tim could be interpreted as “I do not presently, at this time, allow women to teach or have authority over men”

It is not “legalistic” to follow the clear teaching of scripture in this matter.

The rest of what you stated are straw man arguments that have nothing to do with what scripture teaches about male leadership in the church

peace to you