Can Non Calvinists Believe the Gospel Of The Kingdom? Is that Even Possible?

[MrW]

I am always surprised that so many of the anti-biblical types think that the bible has to agree with calvinism if the word of God is to be considered true.

They seem to think calvinism is the standard by which the bible is to be judged.

They think Calvinism IS Christianity.

You know they came part way out of Catholicism.

Ask a Catholic if he is a Christian. He will answer, “I’m a Catholic.” He assumes Catholic and Christian are the same.

I hope we know being a Baptist is not always the same as being a Christian, even though it should.

 

[Silverhair]

Sin makes them turn away, They are bound by a wicked sin nature. The only choice made is to sin, never to seek God. Your attempted in the greek scam did not work.

Z you do not even trust the word of God, what is wrong with you? You in your arrogance and pride in your vaunted calvinism you have closed your mind to the biblical truth.

Under your calvinism they can only do as God has determined that they do so even their turning away in sin would only be because your version of God has made it so.

Of course you will deny this but then you have to deny the basis of your views, divine determinism.

 

[canadyjd]

All people have the ability to respond to the various means that God has provided with which to know Him…..

“Various means” is unbiblical. There is only one “means” of salvation.

1 Corinthians is very clear. Since man did not come to know God through their own wisdom, God was well pleased through the foolishness of the message preached (Jesus Christ and Him crucified) to save those who believe.

There is no salvation without the gospel. The ideology of “responding to the light you have” is a lie from the mouth of Satan that takes the focus off Jesus and puts it on the man.

Anyone that believes many are saved without hearing the gospel is thoroughly deceived and blinded by ignorance of God’s Word.

The more deceived some folks are, the louder they pontificate their nonsense.

Peace to you

 

[canadyjd]

They think Calvinism IS Christianity.

You know they came part way out of Catholicism.

Ask a Catholic if he is a Christian. He will answer, “I’m a Catholic.” He assumes Catholic and Christian are the same.

I hope we know being a Baptist is not always the same as being a Christian, even though it should.

They think the doctrines of grace are clearly taught in scripture and they are correct.

Peace to you

 

[canadyjd]

@MrW, do you agree with SH that many are saved without hearing the gospel? Do you agree with him the gospel is not necessary for salvation?

If you do, that is all I need to know about your opinion of God’s Word.

Peace to you

 

[Silverhair]

“Various means” is unbiblical. There is only one “means” of salvation.

1 Corinthians is very clear. Since man did not come to know God through their own wisdom, God was well pleased through the foolishness of the message preached (Jesus Christ and Him crucified) to save those who believe.

There is no salvation without the gospel. The ideology of “responding to the light you have” is a lie from the mouth of Satan that takes the focus off Jesus and puts it on the man.

Anyone that believes many are saved without hearing the gospel is thoroughly deceived and blinded by ignorance of God’s Word.

The more deceived some folks are, the louder they pontificate their nonsense.

Peace to you

Well I see that you are still trying to deny the power of God.

As I have said many times @canadyjd "All people have the ability to respond to the various means that God has provided with which to know Him" Why do you want to limit God?

Have you never read in the bible of creation, conviction of the Holy Spirit? I am really surprised that you continue to deny these means that God has provided.

What do you say about Job or Abraham or David. Did they not know God, were they not saved?

Did any of the OT saints listed in Heb 11 hear the gospel message? Are all of them in hell because they did not hear that message?

Can you explain Heb 11:5 according to your no one is saved without hearing the gospel first view?

Heb 11:5 By faith Enoch was taken up so that he would not see death; AND HE WAS NOT FOUND BECAUSE GOD TOOK HIM UP; for he obtained the witness that before his being taken up he was pleasing to God.

I do agree with one comment you made "The more deceived some folks are, the louder they pontificate their nonsense."

Your continued denial of the power of God to save those He chooses to save is nonsense.

 

[Silverhair]

They think the doctrines of grace are clearly taught in scripture and they are correct.

Peace to you

You are right @canadyjd "they think the doctrines of grace are clearly taught in scripture".

Your TULIP/DoG is a man-made philosophy based on 4th century teachings that deny to truth of God's word.