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This is a rehash of three recent threads… A good question A better question The best question Reviewing those threads might be helpful Peace to you

This view of the Reformed position is lacking the critical presence of God Holy Spirit. The accurate way of saying it is that no lost person can believe from the heart Jesus is Lord “but by the Spirit”. This view is completely consistent with 1 Corinthians 12:3. As some posters must...

Exactly which translation used #3? From what you posted, YOUR translation is the only one to use #3. Again, the hubris to put forth a change in the understanding of a scripture passage that has stood for thousands of years… with no formal training in biblical Greek, with only a minimum...

He quoted your post. Are you thinking his response is simply a knee jerk, hyperbolic explosion of hatred? Yep Welcome to the receiving end of @van’s nonsensical posts. How does it feel? Peace to you

Strange, you continuously accuse me of saying things I haven’t said, and then complain when you are corrected. “By the Spirit” means exactly what it says… God Holy Spirit enables people to say Jesus is Lord. peace to you

Why do you think the fact Paul is writing to believers in Corinth changes the truth of 1 Corinthians 12:3, “No man says Jesus is Lord, but by the Spirit? As someone else mentioned, and I have explained, Paul is addressing divisions within the church. One such division concerned the gifts of God...

And so I disagree. Paul is very clearly stating God Holy Spirit is essential in every genuine profession of faith. “No man says Jesus is Lord but by the Spirit” It is simple to understand if you will just accept the plain meaning of the words. My only bias is always believing what scripture...

Another straw man argument. I haven’t said God Holy Spirit formulates the words in our mouths. I have have stated God Holy Spirit enables all believers to say “Jesus is Lord”. That is literally what the passage says. “No man says Jesus is Lord but by the Spirit” I see this poster must, once...

Good question. I think being in the presence of God will be so overwhelming that we will naturally fall to our knees, believer and unbeliever (though at that point, I suppose there will no longer be any “unbelievers”, as all will know the Truth. peace to you

Yes! Every single time you quote scripture and say, “let’s rewrite this passage”! peace to you

Just because you say it, doesn’t make it true I have embraced the context and the truth of the passage I don’t think you understand it at all. peace to you

I am still amazed at how casually you can start a thread entitled “let’s rewrite Scripture!” I will accept how experts throughout church history have translated the passage over a novice biblical Greek student that has proven time and again they don’t understand biblical Greek and they don’t...

Another example of why those with very little understanding of biblical Greek, and even less comprehension of the context of scripture, should not be so bold as to rewrite God’s word when they cannot understand. Verse 26, Jesus tells the woman it is not proper to throw the children’s food to...

Did you read my response? I will say it again. Here it comes. NOTE!!!!! I am about to answer your question AGAIN! I have never claimed God Holy Spirit forced anyone to say “Jesus is Lord”? The ability for independents thought does not equate to an ability to chose faith in Jesus without the...

Pot meet kettle peace to you

Wow! That is a lot of words to just say “one thing” to me. :) First, I have never stated God Holy Spirit forces anyone to say “Jesus is Lord. So I really don’t get your point. Your statement, however, that believers say Jesus is Lord by the Spirit does come close to the compulsions idea. I...

Agreed. Additionally, if Paul had intended to say only those that can “truthfully say Jesus is Lord” do so by the Spirit, that would only had led to further divisions within the church as the different factions would claim any that disagreed with their position didn’t “truthfully say” Jesus is...

I appreciate your civil response. I disagree. However, you are getting closer to understanding. You stated that “only those that are saved, indwelt by God Holy Spirit can truthfully say Jesus is Lord.” You see it as referring to after salvation and add “truthfully say Jesus is Lord”. That...

And now the inevitable claim of victimhood. In your first response to my OP you stated…. You do not understand how to debate without personal attacks and insults. Go away, start another thread to slay “Calvinism”, all the while more people are going to hell because of slacking soul winners...

I am certain that in your mind, that made perfect sense. You have a very confused way of thinking. You are so desperate to disprove the doctrines of grace, your mind spins out of control. Not a good way to approach scripture. peace to you