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Before Christ came, there was a division in the Jewish nation, those who were according to the "election of grace" (Rom 11) and those who were not. Just because a Jew was not elect, does not mean that God ceased to be his God. When Moses came to the Jews, he told them that the God of Abraham was...

...And? Are you trying to say that the Mosaic Covenant invalidates the Abrahamic covenant for the Jews or something? That's not what this passage says at all.

I am one of those who believe that you can lose salvation. 1 Timothy 4:1 says that "in the later times some will desert the faith and occupy themselves with deceiving spirits and demonic teachings" (NET). If they desert the faith, they must have previously held to it. John 15 talks about...

Marcion believed that the deity of the New Testament, Christ, is greater than the deity of the Old Testament. How is that any different from your belief? Did you know that the unbelieving Jews today don't regard the New Testament as scripture?

#strawman He believes in the deity of Christ.

Maybe you'll be the first to provide some cogent rebuttal to my post then?

So do you acknowledge that you are a modern-day Marcion then?

It would seem so. Just like Enoch. Both were prototypes of Christ and His present heavenly church. So, you're basing your argument on the fact that a man can't be lonely. Not the strongest argument I would use. Numerous saints in the bible were lonely on earth. Also, time is relative. In...

How come Genesis 17:7 says that God will be the Jews' God forever, regardless of if they believe? "I will confirm my covenant as a perpetual covenant between me and you. It will extend to your descendants after you throughout their generations. I will be your God and the God of your...

The unbelieving Jews have a zeal for the correct God but not according to knowledge (Romans 10:1-2). God gives gifts even to unbelievers (the epistle of James teaches this in Jas 1:5, "God...gives to all generously"). Deuteronomy 29:13 says that God will always be the Jews' God as long as they...

You just proved that you do not read theology, even when I give you quotes.

In the section of my post you're replying to, I'm not talking about Bible verses. Don't make my position, the section of my post you're replying to, to be speaking about bible verses. Don't build straw man arguments. And don't make a response that its reprehensible to talk about theology or the...

????? Where do you come up with this stuff? Are you sure you read theology? Walvoord states that post-tribulationalism can be the belief of Post- and A- Millennialists, depending on whether such a person is full preterist or not. If they are full preterist, they are not post-tribulationalist...

What does this even mean? Are you saying that pretribulationalism always existed since it was never misplaced? Thanks for supporting my position then.

??? Nice red herring! [edited] When you're ready to forsake your fallacious argumentation style void of listening to actual positions and thus void of logical coherent sense let me know.

They are not "historic" premillennialists either then. Historic premillennialists, as they wrongly like to call themselves, like to highlight that the early Church Fathers believed the church was on earth in the tribulation. They also neglect a great amount of material in the primitive Church...

Read my post instead of making straw man fallacies and you will have your answer. No jokes your answer is right in there.

Did you know that even enemies of dispensational theology (like Whitby) have admitted that the entire early church believed that anyone who was not a dispensationalist was a heretic?

That's funny. Those who use straw man fallacies are, according to common sense and logic and coherence, confused.

The entire dispensational early church were against a main tenet of Marcionism, viz. the belief that the OT God was a different God than the God of the New Testament as revealed in Christ. "And there is Marcion, a man of Pontus, who is even at this day alive, and teaching his disciples to...