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For His glory. They were from the reprobate lump with a few from the elect lump. = God's wrath and mercy glorified.

Same lump for the elect and reprobate = arbitrary selection.

Paul says he chose from the same lump. That is an arbitrary choice of the elect and reprobate.

So we can argue? No thanks.

Adam earned your damnation. You had nothing to do with it. Christ earned your salvation. You had nothing to do with that either.

I'm illustrating how I ARBITRARILY went to Colorado instead of Yellowstone. Using the word in a practical application. Don't twist my words and take liberties with them to smear me. If you can refute what I say with scripture, do so.

Here's a book that really helps to understand Pentecostals. https://www.amazon.com/Pagan-Pentecostalism-Its-Roots-Slavery/dp/1500858080

If you wanted to learn, I'd take the time.

God produces all that happens. That's why they call Him God. Could it be that you hate God thinking He is someone more to your liking?

You are accusing me of implying God did the same as me on vacation. You know better than this. You must play with my words because you cannot defend your position with scripture.

But Paul tells us the logical order. They came long after creation in the decree.

You are distorting my definition of arbitrary. Of course, God does not swerve.

All were reprobate except a small bunch kept safe in Israel.

OK, let's consider my usage of the word, as any scholar would. You are missing my point by not considering the use of the term. I used to vacation in the Colorado Rockies. One year I drove west on 80 and came to a fork. I could go to Yellowstone or Denver depending on what lane I was in. So I...

As I said ...for His glory. His glory comes from many means. Israel is one of them. But his choice of who the saved and lost in Israel is purely arbitrary.

The Sermon is Christ's interpretation of the Law. Instead of not stealing, we give. Instead of not killing enemies, we love them and so on and on. We are under the New Covenant. The Law was the Old Covenant now abolished by the New.

Originally he chose from the same wicked lump sinners to glorify His mercy as Paul says. Much later in time, he developed a wicked nation from the reprobate called Israel. He gave them the Law under threat of death, to protect the few saved who glorified Him. Later he abandoned the wicked and...

Did you know if anyone rejects the Sermon on the Mount they do not have God according to John? Matthew closes the Sermon by saying they were astonished at His (Jesus') doctrine. And John says anyone without the doctrine of Christ does not have God. Indeed, we are not supposed to let them in our...

But scripture replaced prophecy and tongues. All you here there today is false. Chew on this for awhile; https://www.amazon.com/Pagan-Pentecostalism-Its-Roots-Slavery/dp/1500858080

For His glory. And that is part of Romans 9 and Ephesians 3...