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I don't see how you can get that it's prosperity gospel from what I said. I don't hold to that.

I have to say that I have suffered much sorrow and loss but am not drawn to Job.

I like that, or most of it anyway. I think you over-generalize about Protestants, but not about fundamentalism.

Yes, I can see that, and I agree with you.

My focus is on the nature of God. It's amazing to me how that can be perverted, even by writers of the sacred. Maybe even more bothersome is how easily people accept that, without questioning. Sometimes such things have troubled me to the point that it did affect me spiritually, and I am not a...

Steven, thank you for that heartfelt and thoughtful post. I would never seek to diminish or demean what the Book of Job means to you. I intend to respect everyone's spiritual journey and try to sympathize with people in the struggles they go through. It's a tough life here on this earth. For...

I can agree with that. Thanks.

People seem to take the point of Job as being that if you remain faithful to God, no matter how much the enemy takes from you, God will restore and replenish many times over. I say that doesn't do anything for the actual people whom Job lost. In other words, the end justifies the means. Not to...

Thank you, Scarlett. That was very helpful. Don't you think, though that the punishment of the "youths" was in excess of their "crimes"?

Thank you for what you said. I have taken quite a lot of flack from some for my questioning. Some I have encountered think that if you don't take a passage in the way they take it, that you're denying scripture or its inspiration. I don't see it that way. I know you and I have our differences...

So, how do you explain the "worse things" that you listed?

I want to put forth the following: If the mods and admins feel that my line of questioning is not acceptable, I will voluntarily withdraw from the forum. I am not trying to contend that I know everything and surely not trying to force anyone to believe anything, or cause anyone to doubt their...

Thank you for your kind, encouraging, and understanding words. That means a lot to me, my friend. I realize Abraham knew that God could bring a person back to life. But Isaac would still have experienced tremendous pain, and death. The story doesn't seem to me to reflect the picture Jesus...

I want to clarify that I do believe Abraham was a real, historical person, not a mythical figure.

Certainly I'm not trying to take down Christianity since I am a Christian. Yes, I am seeking answers.

You didn't quite know the direction I was headed in because it goes way beyond that for me. Don't know if I should say more.

I haven't tried that yet. Thanks for the tip.

Sorry, not buying it. If I say more, I might get banned, and I don't want that to happen. But maybe it will anyway, and maybe I'm not cut out to be a member of a conservative Christian body, even though I am conservative in my views, or mostly so.

God is omnipotent and all-knowing. So, why would he need to test Abraham if He knew beforehand what Abraham would do? The only thing that makes sense here to me is that either God does not know what free choice a person will make beforehand, or this story is not to be taken literally but...

I did, too. But after I got grown I started to question a lot of things.