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  1. Protestant

    The Eternal Purpose of God in Christ

    But I am quoting your from your post # 13. Here is the complete quote: Please note you were mistaken in a small thing: memory loss as to what you said a day ago. Is it possible you can also be mistaken in a big thing: The sovereignty of God's electing grace?
  2. Protestant

    The Eternal Purpose of God in Christ

    Pastor, I asked several pertinent questions in my post # 22 yet received no responses. I will be honored to respond to your post # 35 after you respond to my request which preceded your request. PS What happened to brother Preach Tony? Could he not stay the course?
  3. Protestant

    The Eternal Purpose of God in Christ

    Who is the 'monster'? Preach Tony wrote: Pastor DHK wrote: This forum is very much about identifying the God each side worships. Each is earnestly contending for the faith which they believe was once delivered to the saints. But let’s be perfectly honest: we are not debating side...
  4. Protestant

    The Eternal Purpose of God in Christ

    Amen. Here is my testimony: But Esaias is very bold, and saith, I was found of them that sought me not; I was made manifest unto them that asked not after me. May God 'force' His irresistible saving grace upon all our unregenerate loved ones as He did us!
  5. Protestant

    The Eternal Purpose of God in Christ

    Dear Readers: I place before you, cited above for your edification and enlightenment, a classic example of a propaganda device called Double Talk. According to the author, DHK, In salvation God is more sovereign when He gives up His sovereignty to man. In his book, Propaganda...
  6. Protestant

    The Eternal Purpose of God in Christ

    Tony, your honesty and sincerity is not to be questioned. What we are questioning is your common sense. For example, according to your theology and that of your compatriots: 1. God loves all men worldwide equally. 2. God is not willing for any man to perish. 3. God foreknows the...
  7. Protestant

    The Eternal Purpose of God in Christ

    The Parable of the Tower Builder For which of you, intending to build a tower, sitteth not down first, and counteth the cost, whether he have sufficient to finish it? 29 Lest haply, after he hath laid the foundation, and is not able to finish it, all that behold it begin to mock him, 30...
  8. Protestant

    The Eternal Purpose of God in Christ

    It is my intent in writing these discourses to expose the contradictions held by our Pelagian/Arminian/non-Cal friends. To do so I always harken back to the attributes of God as revealed in His Word. It is my experience that too many professing Christians have not a clue as to whether or...
  9. Protestant

    The Eternal Purpose of God in Christ

    According to the eternal purpose which he purposed in Christ Jesus our Lord (Eph. 3:11) I first wish to thank Pastor DHK for allowing the previous thread to reach 31 pages. This thread is dealing specifically with God’s eternal purpose in Christ. All God’s purposes originate in eternity...
  10. Protestant

    A False Teaching continued...

    Mother Teresa was religious but lost and is now in Hell awaiting her judgment, the second death. She openly worshipped Antichrist Pope John Paul 2, as well as the breaden god, the Roman Catholic false Christ. She was a superstitious idolater of the first order. To die under her spell is...
  11. Protestant

    A False Teaching on Christ’s Satisfaction Exposed

    The problem remains the same: ‘Christ died equally for all but is only efficacious on the condition of faith.’ John 3:16 does not allow for your interpretation. Eternal life is the effect of the cause. The cause is not man’s faith. The cause is Christ's death. You insist, as do...
  12. Protestant

    A False Teaching on Christ’s Satisfaction Exposed

    You and I understand that salvation is given only to those who believe before their death. There is no controversy as to whom John 3:16 is referencing: those who had not yet died in their sins. You begin your premise with an absolute: Christ died for all. In your premise you do not...
  13. Protestant

    A False Teaching on Christ’s Satisfaction Exposed

    Simplistic or Simply what many on this board believe? You have stated, “But Christ came into this world and paid that penalty for me, you, and all mankind.” (quoted in the OP) You believe Christ died (atoned) for all men. That is exactly what the conclusion states. You have also...
  14. Protestant

    A False Teaching on Christ’s Satisfaction Exposed

    All Christ's disciples are first chosen for salvation. Paul was speaking to the Thessalonians who were also chosen for salvation, as were the Ephesians and as are all Elect pre-cross and post-cross. But we are bound to give thanks alway to God for you, brethren beloved of the Lord, because...
  15. Protestant

    A False Teaching on Christ’s Satisfaction Exposed

    To which view do you hold? A. The Pelagian View Christ died (atoned) for all men on the condition of faith. All men have faith. Therefore, Christ died for all men. OR B. The Arminian View Christ died (atoned) for all men on the condition of faith. But not all men have...
  16. Protestant

    A False Teaching on Christ’s Satisfaction Exposed

    And he saith unto them, Follow me, and I will make you fishers of men. (Matt. 4:19) ‘Follow me’ was not an invitation. It was a command, proven by its imperative mood. When Christ, the Good Shepherd, gives a command to His sheep, His Elect, they not only hear His voice, they obey. “My...
  17. Protestant

    A False Teaching on Christ’s Satisfaction Exposed

    How often we have heard our adversaries claim our biblical perspective makes mankind nothing but puppets controlled by the Great Heavenly Puppeteer. Hank Hanegraaff, the self-proclaimed ‘Bible Answer Man,’ has written the following statement in his best seller, The Complete Bible Answer Book...
  18. Protestant

    A False Teaching on Christ’s Satisfaction Exposed

    A few relevant examples of Irresistible Grace: 1. The calling of Peter, James and John……………..Luke 5:1-11 And Jesus said unto Simon, Fear not; from henceforth thou shalt catch men. 11 And when they had brought their ships to land, they forsook all, and followed him. 2. The calling of...
  19. Protestant

    A False Teaching on Christ’s Satisfaction Exposed

    Au contraire, SG was right on point. Neither Jude nor Barnes nor Gill nor Spurgeon understood saving faith in the Gospel of Grace to be wrought by carnal, spiritually dead men. All agree that which is flesh will only produce fleshly, carnal faith. Carnal faith is a lascivious faith...
  20. Protestant

    A False Teaching on Christ’s Satisfaction Exposed

    You make my point. 'The faith' is that which is saving, the faith which is believing Scriptural truth. All the doctrines listed above espoused by Gill are those doctrines which Pelagians/Arminians/non-Cals reject. Furthermore, Barnes is in agreement. And lastly, neither Barnes nor Gill...
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