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  1. Protestant

    The Eternal Purpose of God in Christ

    The unbiased Reader willing to hear and learn from these exchanges is the very purpose of these debates. Like good Bereans we should all be among those who, with an open mind, eagerly examine the Scriptures to discover the truth of the matter. No one here argues man does not possess a kind...
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    The Eternal Purpose of God in Christ

    Never assume. You take for granted that which is yet to be proved: i.e. the faith of the Centurion originated with the Centurion. Had there been no other Scriptures to prove your assumption errant, we should all honor and revere this Centurion, as do you, as the exemplary role model of...
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    The Eternal Purpose of God in Christ

    Tony, what those of our camp are doing is taking Scripture teachings on salvation, including the eternal purpose of God in Christ, election, grace and its many adjuncts, the sin nature of man, the attributes of God, including His need for justice, and putting the 'jig-saw' puzzle together so...
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    The Eternal Purpose of God in Christ

    Tony, I appreciate your hanging in there. It is claimed by those of your camp that faith is man's gift to God. They do not include faith as that which is 'not of yourselves.' They believe the gift of God is salvation, but faith is not included as His gift. I am saying that Paul...
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    The Eternal Purpose of God in Christ

    Prior to the Gospel dispensation of the Church our holy God intentionally left the vast majority of mankind without knowledge of the only way of salvation. That, in itself, is a death sentence with no possibility of reprieve. [The living God] who in times past suffered all nations to walk...
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    The Eternal Purpose of God in Christ

    Amen and amen to that glorious truth, brother SG!
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    The Eternal Purpose of God in Christ

    But that is my point exactly. I simply used your assertion, which is quite true, proving the carnal Christian doctrine (which you hold) does not meet the very standards of 'change' --- consistent permanent change at that ---which you insist is necessary proof of regeneration. The Lord warns...
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    The Eternal Purpose of God in Christ

    I understand you very well, brother Icon. And I concur!
  9. Protestant

    The Eternal Purpose of God in Christ

    We finally find a common ground. A new nature alive in Christ is radically different than the dead carnal nature. The new nature now loves what it once loathed: holiness, sincere concern for the things of God, including obedience and divine truth, as well as a sincere love for the people...
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    The Eternal Purpose of God in Christ

    Cleveland is blessed, indeed, to have Pastor Begg!
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    The Eternal Purpose of God in Christ

    Irresistible grace is God’s irresistible love. Our God has purposefully created humans whom He wills to shower with His unconditional love. It is those undeserving depraved sinners whom God unconditionally elects for salvation. The decree of Election flows from God’s love, mercy...
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    The Eternal Purpose of God in Christ

    How many times have we heard our Pelagian/Arminian opponents declare, ‘God will not force man to love Him. He allows man the freedom to choose.’ I challenge them to bring forward one Christian witness who will testify that God either ‘forced’ that Christian to love Him or ‘forced’ His...
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    The Eternal Purpose of God in Christ

    Welcome back, Tony. What is my definition of ‘love’? Nothing less than the biblical definition of ‘love.’ Greater love hath no man than this, that a man lay down his life for his friends. (John 15:13) But God, who is rich in mercy, for his great love wherewith he loved us, 5 Even...
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    The Eternal Purpose of God in Christ

    I still patiently await answers to my questions. These are not questions which require a theology degree or expert knowledge of Greek and Hebrew. Rather they are legitimate questions which arise from the good use of common sense. Is there not one committed soul among our adversaries who...
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    The Eternal Purpose of God in Christ

    SG, no doubt your spiritual heritage is of the courageous, persecuted French Huguenots who were all Calvinists. Louez le Seigneur!!
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    The Eternal Purpose of God in Christ

    But, truth be told, all men are lost, yet Christ does not save them all. Notice Christ does not qualify who are the 'lost.' Also note, Christ does not add a qualifier to His seeking and saving. He does not say, "I will try my best to seek and save that which is lost." Your supporters...
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    A False Teaching continued...

    To many professing Christians the entire Bible is a non sequitur because in their minds an all-wise, all-powerful, all-loving God cannot accomplish that which He purposed: to actually save the world that He loves. Our Pelagian/Arminian/non-Cal friends find this of no great concern. PS The...
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    A False Teaching continued...

    Except the LORD of hosts had left unto us a very small remnant, we should have been as Sodom, and we should have been like unto Gomorrah.
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    The Eternal Purpose of God in Christ

    As you must know, the Council of Trent was a response to the creeds of the Protestant Reformation. Like many on this board, including yourself, the RCC anathematized the Reformers’ doctrine of Irresistible Grace in Canon 4. The Council of Trent The Sixth Session...
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    The Eternal Purpose of God in Christ

    Salvation is not by chance. If it were, then ‘chance’ is God who must receive the glory. Nor is salvation by one’s decision. The idol of free-will is worshipped by many. Salvation is by the grace of God. God’s grace in Christ is 100% the efficient cause of our salvation. Do you...
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