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but Peters comparison was a literal time period used by man but that to God was nothing from God's viewpoint

we all agree man is physical and spiritual. He was not spiritually "good" but unaccountable as a baby, Not innocent. Physically as the entire physical world was without sin until Adam.. Remember. Satan and others were here but as purely spiritual beings could not affect the physical

they were already spiritually dead, but after sin they were able to physically be able to die. I know what you are saying but God says Eze 18:20 The soul that sinneth, it shall die. The son shall not bear the iniquity of the father, neither shall the father bear the iniquity of the son: the...

It is the purpose of God to destroy the work of the Devil by redeeming sinners The physical was created a place to hold and offer redemption to the condemned Man and thus Jesus was lower than the angels, normal unfallen angels So the works of the devil could be destroyed, when the man who...

to clarify, I know we are sinners condemned already. We just can't blame Adam for our sins.

It is a trick of the devil to try to consider man innocent or perfect in he Garden and that we should return Eden and then Eden can be like Heaven . This is Mormon AND Islam end teaching

He was considered unaccountable(not innocent) until he became able to understand right and wrong, as you were. Think, do not do as I did , accept everything we are told without reading scripture ourselves. Why would God place an sinless innocent in the same place and time where the arch...

Things were not morally good but good according to God's purpose of redemption

it is more prevalent that just Armstrong and older too, He says " as often as you do it " "this do in memory of me" , etc. and most people believe the Last Supper was at Passover meal.

The Last Supper was not the Passover Seder, That was the next evening , Jesus was dead then as the Lambs were

What about John Reynolds?

You know each other?

The former assistant editor for The Sword under Curtis Hudson. Is now our Pastor , John Reynolds Small world

john, . your last name is Himes? is Andrew your brother?

no problem do you catch the significance of time being created for here?

I answered the OP. Literal as a reference to those of us in time but irrelevant to those outside of time, Peter was showing the distinction

Peter was referring to these literal periods to show time is no consequence to God keeping His promises

You have learned our teachings well, but we have been wrong about when we became sinners. If God gave judgment to Jesus and Jesus says He doesn't judge man, and I am condemned (and judged) already, How can I be condemned, as a man, through any act of Adam, I can't Jesus says so...

They are real here and time is in use here but not with God, In Heaven, time is not a reference so you answer your question, in Peters letter they are literal but not in Heaven where the verse uses as a setting it is like yen vs the dollar but no exchanged rate

2Pe 3:8 ¶ But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day. Peter was writing to us a "beloved" for us to consider ..... how God treats us and will keep His promises to just and unjust This was not a notice...