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    Eternal Subordination of the Son. Biblical?

    Was He a son to the Father before being human?
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    Eternal Subordination of the Son. Biblical?

    Was Jesus a son before being human?
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    Eternal Subordination of the Son. Biblical?

    nope, please explain their relationship before Jesus was human?
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    Eternal Subordination of the Son. Biblical?

    We have to consider the thee as co equal GOD. and we must be careful not to imply that Jesus is created or a lessor God as many do.
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    Eternal Subordination of the Son. Biblical?

    Father -Son implies one exits before another and that God who became flesh is subordinate to God the Father. He was God. He was flesh. We too are spiritual beings(not God though) as while we are fleshly beings.
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    Eternal Subordination of the Son. Biblical?

    Jesus was not a son until He became a man. The Father was not a Father to God who became a man until Jesus became a man. God who became a son of man was not a son in Heaven. He was in Heaven while as a man on earth.
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    Eternal Subordination of the Son. Biblical?

    that does not refer to God but the man who has claimed thus or who are his descendants
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    Eternal Subordination of the Son. Biblical?

    The demons recognized who He was as God and Human Mar 1:24 Saying, Let us alone; what have we to do with thee, thou Jesus of Nazareth? art thou come to destroy us? I know thee who thou art, the Holy One of God.
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    Eternal Subordination of the Son. Biblical?

    He was the son of God , as He was human. He was not the Son of God in Heaven before He was human.. He was God
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    How was Christ Forsaken?

    that is fine,, why did you not respond about the Ga Bulldogs?
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    How was Christ Forsaken?

    God on the cross, suffering separation from God is spiritual death and as a man dying is physical death The was suffering to live and die as a man but incurred the sin of the world to bear it on the cross.
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    Not Scripturally supported?

    All verses have to be true. look upon means regard, Sinners, us , are condemned already. We can only have a relationship with God through Jesus. Remember He says "depart from me I never knew ye. " of course He has knowledge of us but no relationship of us being sent to lake of fire
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    How was Christ Forsaken?

    that is right
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    How was Christ Forsaken?

    how does that being glory except in redeeming sinners
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    How was Christ Forsaken?

    Jesus himself shows He was forsaken Mar 15:34 And at the ninth hour Jesus cried with a loud voice, saying, Eloi, Eloi, lama sabachthani? which is, being interpreted, My God, my God, why hast thou forsakenme? egkataleipō separation
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    How was Christ Forsaken?

    yes, we are in condemnation that is why we need salvation
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    Was God Wrathful before the Fall?

    Satan started sin, it was ego. Adam is part of redemption process
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    How was Christ Forsaken?

    oh no, creation is part of redemption. God had to be human in order to save us Heb 2:14 Forasmuch then as the children are partakers of flesh and blood, he also himself likewise took part of the same; that through death he might destroy him that had the power of death, that is, the devil;
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    How was Christ Forsaken?

    He became sin. 2Co 5:21 For he hath made him to be sin for us, who knew no sin; that we might be made the righteousness of God in him. God won't behold sin, Hab 1:13 Thou art of purer eyes than to behold evil, and canst not look on iniquity: wherefore lookest thou upon them that deal...
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    How was Christ Forsaken?

    yes but not because of Adam
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