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I guess you’re being consistent, as you also believe saved souls must be saved before they can be saved. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Possibly. But if in a resting state, where are they resting? I’m tending toward the idea that resting or sleeping really means “dead”, but with a resurrection to come. That’s how Jesus described the other Lazarus, brother of Mary and Martha. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

I’m not sure how that would work, if the soul is mortal, but the lost suffer eternally. What is suffering, if not the soul? I guess you’ve brought up a good point—that now we need to define “soul”. I propose that it is the thinking part of the person. The part that experiences what the body...

Which “it” are you referring to? He names Hades, but describes the other place—“Abraham’s Bosom” is not a place name, except in proximity to Abraham. The question is not what to call it, or how many places He’s referring to, but whether it is a description of places at all, or perhaps whether...

I’ll give you the answer I’ve been trying to give you this whole thread. I don’t know that there is such a place. The Samuel story does not require it. Jesus’ story of the rich man and Lazarus might, but I’m not completely convinced it does. If the Lazarus story is the only place where it talks...

Your trick question?

It’s a trick question. In a courtroom a prosecutor asks a witness whether he has stopped beating his wife. If he answers “yes”, then he is admitting he previously beat his wife. If he answers “no”, then he is admitting he is still beating his wife. Either answer “proves” his guilt. But the...

About wife beating? I was making a point. Did you understand my point? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

I don’t have any problem with what you written in this post, except that they don’t need to be convicted of anything in order to have something to repent of, they just don’t know they need to repent without that conviction, which we both recognize comes from the Holy Spirit. Sent from my iPhone...

Yes, and how does that negate what I said and make the Barnabas text say the opposite of how it appears to read?

John tells us that in the last judgment, Hades will be forever conflated with the lake of fire. I consider it possible, though not a necessity, that Jesus was giving a story about what happens after the judgment in the story of Lazarus and the Rich Man. But whether I'm right about that or not...

And when did you stop beating your wife?

She did not say anything about what was under the earth, only what came up out of the earth. As such, she wasn’t talking about what was under the earth, no matter what anyone calls it! Only what came up. Jesus did not actually name a place where Lazarus was. He only described his position with...

She only saw something “ascending out of the earth”. She never said she saw something “under the earth”. She never said anything about “Abraham’s bosom”, either. Be careful not to put words into the text.

Hebrews 1:7 (KJV) And of the angels he saith, Who maketh his angels spirits, and his ministers a flame of fire. Psalm 104:4 (KJV) 4 Who maketh his angels spirits; his ministers a flaming fire: The word in both the Greek New Testament and the Septuagint is “aggelos”, and the word in Hebrew is...

She said she saw them or him come up out of the earth. It doesn’t say she saw into the earth. I didn’t say it wasn’t Samuel. I think the old “man” she saw coming up in vs 14 was a different thing/being from the “gods” she saw ascending in vs 13. I could well be wrong, and this one passage...

Hardly. Moses told them to love their neighbor as themselves, among other things. The prophets definitely said “Their worm does not die and their fire is not quenched.” Jesus was clear that they had both Moses and the prophets, but He didn’t say one was as good as both. Sent from my iPhone...

Not just lower Sheol—“and shall consume the earth with her increase,“—her increase is the produce of the land. That’s what I was pointing out—it’s not just Sheol that’s being talked about here. But if the punishment for those that sacrifice to devils includes the whole land getting torched, then...

@37818 this was for you, sorry about losing the quote in my response.

The witch said she saw “gods”, or elohim ascending out of the earth. Then the pronoun switches to singular and they talk about Samuel. I think the elohim were either God or angels that raised Samuel in some form, possibly as a temporary resurrection. There may be a distinction between the elohim...