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I don't understand why you would say that. If Adam died due to sin and then is raised due to the sacrifice of Jesus, why is that incorrect? If we are all Adam's seed, and thus are treated like Adam, both in death and in the resurrection, why is that incorrect? I don't see anything in those...

Vs 5, as you quoted, is EXPLICIT that the dead live again, and these are the ones that did NOT rise at the first resurrection. "Resurrection" is a term that requires the object be first alive, then dead, then alive again. If their bodies don't die, what does? We've already said the soul is...

I've heard of others talk about an immediate transference to the GWT after death. But to me, it doesn't ring true if the souls under the altar are having to wait.

Then why is sheol ("Hades") listed next to "the sea" in Rev 20:13? Are you saying there are souls that are waiting in the sea for thousands of years?? And why is it called a "resurrection" if the soul wasn't dead? One major interpretation of "Sheol", translated in the Septuagint as "Hades", is...

I was responding to timtofly.

If Jesus said, “Fear Him who can destroy both body and soul in hell,” how can you say no body goes to the place of death? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Not the recreative part. That’s a reversal of judgment. Death of the body was a judgment, and bringing that body back to life is a reversal of that judgment. For the wages of sin is death, but the gift of God is eternal life. Even life that’s not eternal is a gift of God. Why would God give...

Good reply, 3!! (May I call you "3"?) Therefore death is the loss of life, and not the opposite of life. It sounds like we are in agreement on this. Here's the whole of vs 9: [Ecc 9:9 KJV] Live joyfully with the wife whom thou lovest all the days of the life of thy vanity, which he hath given...

You have made a lot of assertions, some of which are pertinent to this discussion. Truth is definitely bigger than one post, but we don't need to put all of truth in every post. But we also need to make sure we get God's truth into our posts, and verify it with scriptural references. I was...

I have a hard time deciphering some of your posts, Tim. And they are too long to respond to all of it. I'll respond to this part: "We are not told what happens to the spirit with God." I offered one verse about the spirit in my OP. "[Ecc 12:7 KJV] Then shall the dust return to the earth as it...

This is good advice all around! But what if I use the word "presuppose". Does that change anything? We all have some kind of presupposition when we approach bible study. That was my point in the OPs--my presupposition earlier in life was the one I'm reconsidering today. It's not a bad thing to...

Presume for a moment that death actually means the cessation of all function, mental, physical, spiritual. Now presume that God meant that when He said Adam would die in the day he ate of the fruit of the tree of knowledge of good and evil. Let's allow "in the day" to mean any of several...

This has come up in several other topics, so I thought I'd start a thread about it. Is "death" really the same as "separation"? The separation tends to be between different things, depending on which passage one is talking about. "Spiritual death" is seen as "separation from God", and is often...

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Ok then. “The Enablement”. Never saw that in scripture. But it all boils down to: you have to be saved to get saved. Meaning it’s not the blood of Jesus that saves you, it’s that special sauce! And God only gives the special sauce to special people, despite God not being a respecter of...

And your conclusion from that premise is that God is sovereign, and that He controls everything? Because a rock is dead? And I guess Death is “very good”, since rocks were part of God’s creation before sin.

Football game is ok, as long as you wear a condom on your face!

A rock doesn’t need a physician. A dead person doesn’t need a physician, either. A sick person needs a physician—someone who is about to die. But Jesus’ point there was that those who didn’t see themselves as sick were not going to seek out a physician. Now if God provides some kind of...

Humans have no capacity to be saved without the free gift of God’s son. They are dead in the sense that they will die without the possibility to be saved from death. Jesus fixes that problem. Now men can hear the word, and believe, because faith comes by hearing the word, not by a magical...

Death is not the lack of life, it’s the LOSS of life. A rock is not alive, but it’s not dead, either. A corpse is dead, because it used to be alive. A person can’t be born dead, unless, they were at one time alive. Are you saying our spirits were dead at conception? Then they must have been...