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NO! You're not getting the intent of the passage. You must understand throughout Jesus ministry he didn't go around making that his theme that he was the Christ. He was and is and a few others had inkling that this was the case BUT...there was a time in place where that message was to be...

What regeneration of the human spirit being born again comes first? How can that be when Old Testament saints weren't regenerated? Couldn't they still believe?

God is not pleased with all persons in the same fashion but that's not the same as LOVE.

If you wouldn't mind let's look at the whole verse again so as not to miss the point I was really wanting to make. O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, thou that killest the prophets, and stonest them which are sent unto thee, how often would I have gathered thy children together, even as a hen gathereth...

Sure Icon! You referred to clear teaching. Would you kindly share with me how Jesus in the verse below could lament over Jerusalem the following way if it was really wasn't God's will for them to be his children? It says below he longed to. Other translations say it was his desire. In all...

Well I guess I've been told BUT....I respectfully disagree. :Cool

Is it that I reject the world of God? Or rather that you're reading the word of God wrongly? I'd say the passage in question has nothing to do with an unsaved person having no ability to get saved that is by making a choice. It's talking about believers if they choose to walk in the flesh they...

Well with respect I'd say everything God does is within the perimeters of LOVE, including judgment. God doesn't have any diminished type of LOVE...impossible.

No he doesn't. There's really no indication Paul is even talking about man from the day of his birth. It's believed by many it's really in reference to particular problems the Jews had with their false ideas and the Greeks as well. Many men would have a tendency to look to philosophical things...

Well Icon I guess I can say I'm glad in all my posts prior you took them seriously.:Thumbsup Again like I said 27 translations of the NT DO NOT put down Psalm 110:3 as you have stated. You put down are made willing. None of them say that. And as for John 1:13 sure it wasn't our will that...

Not at all? Didn't YOU believe the gospel? That didn't take your will? I'd appreciate a scripture for that please. If you're quoting from Psalm 110:3 I see 27 different type translations on Bible Hub. None say God makes them willing...it says "Thy people shall be willing in the day of thy...

Or you could talk about the Judgement on the World with Noah too. There reaches a point among the affairs of men where God would no longer be good or LOVING to allow sin to continue one more moment.

And with respect I'd suggest you're in error. Jesus clearly stated If we remain in him...John 15:7 Is not IF conditional?

I don't question at all that we are bought with a price...the precious blood of Jesus. 1 Peter 1:19 I don't question at all that we are made Sons of God. Sons as in the prodigal son story however can willfully choose to leave the Father's house and sadly be lost. Luke 15 Doesn't demonstrate...

Well your claim that my understanding is defective is merely your own Calvinistic, OSAS assertion. I contend once again individuals need to choose to remain In Christ and continue in the faith and hold those conditions were a part of the covenant. It was actually always a part of the Old...

Why not? I mean what possible concern could you have that you would need "thee" or "thou" and not YOU? You want precision and accuracy? Jesus didn't speak "thee" or "thou" σύ, σοῦ, σοί, σέ is the word used. It means YOU. Here's the thing to not switch over don't you consider that you're setting...

I'd suggest it's not near as rare as you'd claim. All I know is what I've read from various KJO proponents which go as far to claim all other translations even in English are abominations. That thankfully doesn't seem to be your position.:Cool

Nor in me my friend! :Thumbsup Well if you hold to once saved always saved then you consider that sealing is something guaranteed, locked up and settled forever regardless of one's actions. I'd contend it's rather a guarantee of one's present Salvation as they choose to remain in Christ and...

:Thumbsup Well Iconoclast what you post was largely the thoughts of Spurgeon who somehow claims the warning of Jesus were meant for the elect and it seems not for the whole human race. He seems of the opinion Jesus warnings create an absolute guarantee Christians will be thrust into an...

So what you're claiming is getting saved is automatic and all Jesus warnings in that regard well...they just automatically work.....but not his warnings of living a holy life after that? Why wouldn't God be concerned about your making all right decisions if it is as Calvinists say?