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Any given chapter of the Bible has sections in it that are not necessarily related to other portions. Chapter divisions are not divinely ordained of God. Do you acknowledge that the person in 2:14 is distinctly different from the person in verse 15? Here's verse 15 from the NET : "The one who is...

The NASB, for the most part did. The ESV, no. The preface is contradictory. One part is honest in what the translation is about another part is flatly wrong. I will provide the examples a bit later. Whereas you never provide examples from the very text of the translations you criticize. In a...

A person without the Spirit is lost -- that is the plight of the person in 1 Cor. 2:14 --who regards the things of the Spirit of God as foolishness. That person is an unbeliever, unsaved, lost, unregenerate. Can any believer consider the things of the Spirit of God as foolishness? Really?! No...

The very person characterized in 1 Cor. 2:14 is lost.

I will quote from an informative book from eight years ago. It's called Which Bible Translation Should I Use? E. Ray Clendenen article is on the HCSB. He writes on page 118 : "Another problem with 'literal' is that sometimes people try to make a distinction between a 'translation' and an...

That's all fine and well Rob regarding inclusive language in various Bible translations. What I am concerned with is the fact that false accusations are allowed to stand. It's not a matter of opinion. Either it is in the text or not. If not, then the person making the false claims should confess...

The simple thing for you to do is to cite the passages where the NLT and CSB do these terrible things as I have said before. In post #8 i asked you :"Does the NLT and CSB do these dastardly things?" In post #14 you said they do. It's put up or shut up time for you once more Y-1. If you can't...

Why don't you read the very things you quote? I said for you to prove from the texts of the NLT and CSB that they promote : 1) Women as pastors 2) A blurring of sexual roles 3) Women, instead of men, as leaders in the home

I'll be quoting from F.F. Bruce's book History Of The Bible In English. I have the third edition from 1978. Bruce is discussing John Purvey, a close associate of John Wycliffe. Purvey is credited with the second so-called Wycliffe translation. It was written in a more comprehensible manner than...

People who fall into the category of 1 Cor. 2:14 are unbelievers. They don't have the Spirit of God. They are not merely baby believers or new Christians. The immature Christians are characterized in chapter 3, verses 1 and 2. But 2:14 is centering on those opposing God. They regard the things...

#19 was a short 7 word reply to Mitch. #20 was merely as passing mention of the NIV, most of the post concerned other matters. Yes, 34,37,41 and 54 were replies to Y-1. #45 was only a quote by Bill Mounce, with no words of my own. I'll give you 5.5 points out of 8. What thread was that, in...

This thread will be open-ended. No fancy schmancy rules about nuancing minutia. You may talk about translations and translation methods. You can take issue with translation methods. I would like concrete examples when accusations are laid down though. Oh no, as I'm thinking about this, I...

The OP sure is an attention grabber, or click bait. Strange that the OP poster didn't offer any evidence from any text demonstrating that Christian marriages are endangered because of gender-specific Bible translations. One would think that would be the first order of priority. But after all...

In Definitions 1, all of my 12 quotes did not mention you know what at all. It was mentioned by JJ first and I responded to his comments. Y-1 made a post about it and I replied. So who was a riding a hobby horse? Not me. Open your eyes.

Try re-working your math. It's 36 years. "Or so" could be stretched to 29, not 36 years. As you know, the ESV has at least 30% more inclusive language than the 1984 NIV. But the 1969 Modern Language Bible, formerly known as the New Berkeley Version, used even more gender accurate language...

It is intriguing that you find it intriguing. The term 'gender-neutral' is so lame. One would think that it refers to everyone as an asexual being. But of course there is no such absurdity going on at all. It is an imaginary construct due to idleness.

I was quoting from the NIV. Here, I will quote from Goodspeed's An American Translation "No one can come to me unless he is enabled to do so by the Father." Or how about Norlie's Simplified New Testament So that is why I told you that no one can come to Me unless the Father enables him to do...

The words words man, men, male, brother, his, him, are all gender renderings. The words woman, women, female, sister, her, hers are also "gender renderings." All versions have all of these words in their texts.

So the CSB and NLT both support : 1) Women as elders and pastors 2) A blurring of sexual roles 3) Women, instead of men as leaders in the home You have never proven any of these and other nefarious things by citing anything in the text of the NIV. Now it's time to prove from the texts of the...

In your post #11, you said "Just suggesting that we are moving in that direction." Let's deal specifically with the NIV, CSB and NLT. So there is some kind of movement , but you really can't point to anything of substance in the text itself. Movement but no evidence. It doesn't exist, but it...