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@Martin Marprelate: Take your time! I find the quality and depth of discussion to be better when sufficient time for thought is available. :) Sent from my Pixel 2 using Tapatalk

Uh oh. Looks like part of part 3 got lost in the process. I'll fix it in a bit. It was really good stuff! :) Sent from my Pixel 2 using Tapatalk

Part 4 of 4 ---- So the Lord's "becoming sin" has nothing to do with Him assuming any legal guilt on our behalf. It has everything to do with Him assuming the natural consequences of the sin of Adam, in order that He might give the consequences themselves over to death by His own assumption of...

Part 3 of 4 ----- More begging the question. In fact, the reason we will not (if we are saved) have to drink the wine of the wrath of God is because we will have been made holy, and pure, and righteous, and sinless: no longer sinners, the wrath of God will not abide on us, because it abides...

Part 2 of 4 ---- Hebrews 5:7 tells us that His fear and concern were for His impending experience of death, not separation from the Father. Also, He was not heard "in that He suffered all the outraged justice of the Trinity", but rather "in that He feared". That is, He Himself had (in His...

Part 1 of 4 ---- Well, let's not jump to conclusions quite yet. We can agree at the point that they will share in the cup of Christ's sufferings. I'm quite pleased I don't have to explain this idea to you. :) (You'd be surprised how many people don't understand this basic idea.) It will...

Ok. Thanks for confirming. I expect to have the answer I am working on finished either tomorrow or Monday. (Shooting for tomorrow!) Sent from my Pixel 2 using Tapatalk

Well, looks like this one is on the chopping block. Thanks, everybody, for your perspectives! Sent from my Pixel 2 using Tapatalk

Ok, I've been working on all week on a very long and (hopefully) thorough reply, but I need to ask one more question just to make sure I'm not assuming something I shouldn't. What is the wrath of God as far as you can tell? What constitutes it? Is it an emotion? Is it anger? Is it more than...

I hold to exactly zero of the five points of Calvinism, so...no thanks. :) But I do enjoy hearing the acapella music. (We Orthodox don't use instruments, either, and for largely the same reason.) Sent from my Pixel 2 using Tapatalk

@Earth Wind and Fire I think the confusion here arises from the fact that for the most part modern services are fairly non-exclusive. Anyone can come and go as they please, and it's considered extremely rude to ask anyone to leave unless they are causing some disruption. Traditionally, both...

Ok, I think I can work with that. As Orthodox, we "believe and confess that this is truly Thine own immaculate Body, and that this is truly Thine own precious Blood" -- although we don't go so far as the Romans or the Lutherans in attempting to define how this is the case, nor do we fail to...

I've heard it said, "John was a Baptist, Jesus was a Baptist, and so am I" or things to that effect, and I was wondering how far our Baptists on here take that. The range of possibilities is quite broad -- anywhere from "We should baptize people" (you'd be hard pressed to find someone claiming...

Yeah, given the depth of your responses I didn't expect IFB ... lol. (I don't mean that as an insult; just an observation based on my experiences.) Given that (and to save us some time going over things we already agree on, or arguing about things we're never going to agree on) -- as Reformed...

(As a P.S. it's possible I didn't fully understand all the possible versions of PSA. I do understand what I was taught as an IFB, and the spirit with which it was taught, and the practical and doctrinal results. It's that that I've been fighting against, and I want to make that clear. Because...

Thank you (sincerely!) for hanging with me here. I'm keeping track of the questions I've been asked, and I'm doing my best to understand fully the breadth/depth of your mindset before rushing off into words that will not profit either of us. I really appreciate the trust you're putting in me...

@Martin Marprelate , Don't worry, we will discuss my answers to your questions, I promise. In fact, we are discussing them, just apophatically at the moment. Sent from my Pixel 2 using Tapatalk

We'll get to that when we look at the cup He actually drank. As a preview, the verse you quoted, and particularly the part you underline, betrays you. It says, "by no means". Does "by no means" mean what it says as absolutely as it seems to be saying it? If so, then even the means of...

I have an answer, but before I give it, I want you to acknowledge on the record that under your scheme, where the cup is the cup of the wine of the wrath of God, that He did say that James and John (at least) would also drink of that cup. You may/should also provide an explanation of how that...

^ He got it. Sent from my Pixel 2 using Tapatalk