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    Uncle Billy Went to Church

    Except no one is calling anyone "names" so.....that's a lie. No one is in "hysterics"...they just don't take you seriously. That would be you, sir, since you presumably claim to be on the "side of right"....(what does that phrase mean???) "Taking such a 'tact'" is a phrase with no meaning, I...
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    Uncle Billy Went to Church

    LOL.... I randomly guessed at 2 mins. and 20 seconds...in my post I just realized your You-tube video, is actually 2 mins.-22seconds....LOLOLOL... You Calvinists are so predictably cute! :):) I just want to pick you up in my arms and hug and squeeze you to death :p:p My daughters wanted a...
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    Uncle Billy Went to Church

    You have already set this up to do nothing but trash Godly people who desire to reach the lost including "Uncle Billy". No one is singing "Just as I am" for 20 minutes. And most pastors do a little more than "urge" people to "accept Jesus into their heart". You actually understand little to...
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    Poor Old "Uncle Billy"

    Yeah...it's precisely what makes a determinist a determinist...by definition.... And Calvinism is, at it's core deterministic by default, whether you are personally aware of it or not.
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    Poor Old "Uncle Billy"

    This argument fails on a fundamental level. Because it assumes determinist presuppositions which are already in dispute and denied by non-determinists. You asked in a previous thread what Free Will was....It is one wherein the agent's choices are not determined by either INTERNAL or EXTERNAL...
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    Why Do Arminians Pray for the Salvation of the Lost?

    It's only "pleasurable" if we don't take your word seriously though, since you object to my insistence on quoting your own words to you. Translation: You will not discourse with one who insists on quoting your own words back to you and insisting that you explain your own words...which I've...
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    Why Do Arminians Pray for the Salvation of the Lost?

    That's exactly what you did, I will again quote you in your own words explaining the standard to which you adhere" This is you insisting on particular verbiage and the quotes are YOURS (not mine) meaning you were (an hour ago) insisting on particular verbiage.: Two things in your post: 1.)...
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    Why Do Arminians Pray for the Salvation of the Lost?

    You're just "moving the goalposts"... You cried that the Scriptures don't use any such phrase as "prevenient Grace", and I explained they also similarly don't use terms like "efficacious" or "irresistible grace" either. So, basically, your argument was vapid and it sucked. NOWHERE do the...
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    Why Do Arminians Pray for the Salvation of the Lost?

    Did you soldier through Downton Abbey? If you did, you don't owe "The Crown". You've done your bit for King and Country for at least five years... Maybe you could short-cut through "Upstairs-Downstairs" instead??? That isn't fair. It shoulda' been sufficient.... "Poldark" is a good compromise...
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    Why Do Arminians Pray for the Salvation of the Lost?

    Why did Christ bother to speak in parables?
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    Why Do Arminians Pray for the Salvation of the Lost?

    There is no such "faith" in the Scriptures called "irresistible" or "efficacious" grace....either. I hate to say this but, for the sophisticates amongst us: ........duh......
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    Why Do Arminians Pray for the Salvation of the Lost?

    Yes, there are... I've just laboriously laid out the arguments from both sides of the issue and essentially proven it inescapably.. Please attempt to interact with my arguments... Or admit that you are a fanatasist not capable of real and reasoned debate, because I've already anticipated and...
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    Why Do Arminians Pray for the Salvation of the Lost?

    What in GOD'S HOLY NAME do you think I JUST DID!
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    Why Do Arminians Pray for the Salvation of the Lost?

    Hold on...let me just be clear here...... Just to make sure, are you "That-Brian"..... Asking Me whether or not I am WILLING TO "ATTEMPT AN ANSWER"!!!!!!!!!
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    Why Do Arminians Pray for the Salvation of the Lost?

    Which argues against Calvinism...because it means Jesus was intentionally cryptic in order to hide his true meaning lest they understand him and repent: Mark 4: 12 “That seeing they may see, and not perceive; and hearing they may hear, and not understand; lest at any time they should be...
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    Why Do Arminians Pray for the Salvation of the Lost?

    Good Lord Yeshua... Not that you'll learn...but even in the "Classical Arminian" schema...(which few here actually adhere to) that's already covered: It would be covered by their appeal to "Prevenient Grace". That may not be Rev's explanation.... But, this is so elementary. There's a...
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    Needlessly Loose Translation Choices

    Maybe they do. I don't pretend to know the best answer for your queries.... Just wanted it known that the "debating how many angels can dance on the head of a pin"... is a falsehood.... Didn't happen.
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    Why Do Arminians Pray for the Salvation of the Lost?

    Yup, covered it... thanks... It's a dumb thread... Got it. Neither side wins this one....It's a non-starter.
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    Why Do Arminians Pray for the Salvation of the Lost?

    But, it also fails: A non-Calvinist is also perfectly free to appeal to the idea that God "uses means"....just as much as a Calvinist does. Nothing prevents that.... Moreover, if they do indeed appeal to a form of "Prevenient Grace"....or an "Enabling Grace" than, that particular function is...
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    Why Do Arminians Pray for the Salvation of the Lost?

    Enter the Non-Calvinst problem: The argument from a Calvinist is something like this: Since you (non-Calvinists) insist that God refuses to violate human volition, and inasmuch as God has already accomplished all he can and will accomplish on the cross vis-à-vis your view of atonement...and...
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