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Interesting point Dave, Mal 3:2 "But who can endure the day of his coming? Who can stand when he appears? For he will be like a refiner's fire or a launderer's soap. Mal 3:3 "He will sit as a refiner and purifier of silver; he will purify the Levites and refine them like gold and silver. Then...

The fire spoken of in the example you gave are two different fires. Matt 3:11, Luke 3:16 "...He...

Re; comments by cathode You ask why the Baptists consider the mode of baptism important considering that it, in your opinion, it is a superfluous point, If it is so unimportant, why did the vatican congregation for doctrine and faith just declare the "baptism" of THOUSANDS of the congregation...

The new covenant ordinance of baptism given to the church/kingdom coming forth or being revealed was practiced by John and the servants of Christ in the same manner as it was administered to Christ, full immersion. His example was the express evidence/pattern needed for the scriptural church to...

Bro SBG, I have great concern for you in your pride and willingness to mis-state a clearly evident statement by JM. You are unable to say, "Sorry guys, misread that one." In continuing to misrepresent JM's point, you become a false witness. I must agree with Bro 1689 in his admonishing you...

I listened to the video, and knowing the context, I do not hear what you say he is saying.

Bro SBG, Matt 26:28 says the blood is the blood of the new covenant. Heb 9:16 says that in order for the new covenant to be in effect that there had to be the death of Christ the testator. If Christ had cut his finger, that would NOT have secured the new covenant. There was a PARTICULAR...

Bro SBG, I do not hear John MacArthur teaching what you are saying at all. It is the proper application of the blood that is in question. It is easy to see that MacArthur associates the blood of Christ with his sacrifice on Calvary but not an application apart from his death. His death AND...

This post may have been more appropriate under the other topic but given the flow of the discussion I am posting it here. In Saved by Grace's first post "Christ the God-man" he posts a video by Alistar Begg. Begg makes one assertion that destroys his own Armenian doctrine. To paraphrase, "That...

Bro agedman, Thank you for your questions. I find that I sometimes do not go into sufficient depth to clarify my position. When I am questioned, it helps me to be more specific regarding a certain point. My point in our refusing to baptize someone who refused to become a member our church is...

If you thought I was saying that church membership saved, you read too much into my post. My statement that a mixed multitude was in the church should have been sufficient to clarify that for you. If church membership or baptism saved, why did it not save the false brethren in Jude 1:4 and Gal...

Indeed, there was a mixed multitude in Israel even as there is in the church today. This is evidenced by the many of the churches addressed by Christ in Revelation. This does not negate the doctrine of corporate salvation. Where I attend, WE believe that the faith of Abraham spoken of in...

Christ came preaching the gospel of the KINGDOM. (Mt 4:23). The new covenant is the constitution of the kingdom. You cannot have one without the other. As Moses led Israel out of Egypt as a nation/kingdom, so Christ leads his covenant church people as a nation/kingdom. I Peter 2:9 says, Ye are...

I use "instant salvation" in the context of easy believeism or a professed salvation without evidence of fruit. The examples I gave come from someone truly made alive and the resulting fruit/works that come from the life of Christ in them that enables them to be a functional member of the body...

Bro canadyjd, Thank you for your condolences. He was a very good brother and it broke my heart when he passed away in what I believe was an unregenerate condition. I am not one to put much stock in deathbed confessions. It seems they are a magic parachute for those who have chosen to live...

Bro Robycop, I may still not be understanding your point, but man had fallen and there had to be a sacrifice for sin, a sacrifice that only Christ could provide.

1 John 3:11 says, "This is the message/commandment that ye have heard from the beginning, that we (the body of Christ) should love one another." vs 14) We (the body of Christ) KNOW (have faith and assurance) we have passed from death unto life because WE love the BRETHREN (one another-1Jn...

Bro Robycop, You forgot to read the 16th verse. "For where a testament/covenant is, there must also OF NECESSITY (without option) be the DEATH of the testator.

Abraham's responds to Lazarus in Luke 16:31 by saying, "And he said to him, if they hear not (not believe) Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded (they will NOT believe) though one rose from the dead." Deu 29:4 says, "Yet the LORD HATH NOT GIVEN YOU an heart to perceive, and...

To wish someone a happy time watching the super bowl from heaven is blasphemous. 1 John 3:14 says, "We KNOW (have assurance/confidence) we have passed from death unto life because we love THE BRETHREN." Matthew 7:20 says, "Wherefore by their fruits ye SHALL know them." Betty White loved her...