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PROOVE IT!!! Because I have already supplied evidence (well researched) which suggests the contrary...You supply NO evidence to support this assertion nor do you negate my post which clearly teaches otherwise. Whether Pre-Trib is true or not ISN'T the question in the OP geniuses....the HISTORY...

O.K....I'll bite...only because I know History as well as you do, and you use it as a bludgeon in the most un-godly sort of ways:

Apparently, there was one Ephraem the Syrian, (who lived from A.D. 306 to 373) whose writing commonly called "The Sermon of the End of the World" strongly supports a Pre-tribulational rapture theory: In Chronological order I will post quotes from that sermon which support his belief in...

Here: "Works" are explained as being of the "flesh" but "Faith" of the Spirit: Gal 3:3 Are ye so foolish? having begun in the Spirit, are ye now made perfect by the flesh? This same book renders a it impossible to confuse them as being the same type of thing in that one is of the flesh and...

I agree that God does not have any new or original thoughts, but, I think we overuse immutability somewhat. God is Omniscient and Timeless, and knows all things, but I do not think that an original thought would contradict his Immutability. Immutability, as I understand it is his inability to...

I think we need to look at the verse very closely to see what it is and is NOT saying and I bolded key words and phrases: Rom 8:28 And we know that all things work together for good to them that love God, to them who are the called according to [his] purpose. Two key things stick out in...

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I don't think many do. The term "Pelagianism" is used in conjunction with Arminianism so much that there is confusion I think. The term "Pelagianism" (as it has been used) does not consider a special act of grace necessary, but Arminianism does. McMahon's M.O. for instance, seems to be to...

I have no idea why you would...I wouldn't... I would NEVER debate me, and yet YOU DO! Only you can answer that question, and similarly, it appears that only YOU can prevent forest fires.:wavey: And yes, I am quite entertaining...thank you for noticing..and guess what...Luke's OP was right...

And you are "inconsistent". History shall be the judge: You are patently not trying to debate but, merely insult at this point: And it bores me. You win, ok how about that. And I think you meant to say: "'you're' a consistent lunatic" not "your" a consistent lunatic." Because that makes no...

I don't know "everything"....I know the difference between "Arminianism" and "Pelagianism" and you don't...if that makes me "OZ"....than, I accept the nomination..if it doesn't than I don't..But, you are "wrong" and I remain "right" about my definitions...That isn't arrogance, my friend..it's...

Take either the US or Great Britain....BOTH of them are shadows of the possible glory they both once might have had....Folks...you may like Luke's assessment or not: It's a "generalization"...yes... But "generalizations" exist ony because they are "generally" true...and truth is, Luke is...