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  1. steaver

    Walter Martin points out that the Adventist denomination is not a cult. Continued

    So your standard is a text must say "eternal life" in order for it to be speaking of "eternal life"? If I recall, you have pointed to Romans 11 many times in the past as one of your reasons for believing a person can lose their salvation/eternal life.
  2. steaver

    Walter Martin points out that the Adventist denomination is not a cult. Continued

    So you agree the irrevocable gift spoken of in the text is eternal life through belief in Jesus Christ.
  3. steaver

    Walter Martin points out that the Adventist denomination is not a cult. Continued

    Does this just apply to Israel or all believers?
  4. steaver

    Walter Martin points out that the Adventist denomination is not a cult. Continued

    "for the gifts and the calling of God are irrevocable". (Romans 11:29) Oops! you must have missed that one.... Maybe you should stay away from parables when forming your doctrine opinions. ;)
  5. steaver

    Walter Martin points out that the Adventist denomination is not a cult. Continued

    As I said, two Gospels preached. One must choose between the 2000 year one or the EGW one some 1800 years afterwards. One must believe all the Christians missed it for 1800 years and then God sent EGW finally to straighten us all out.
  6. steaver

    Walter Martin points out that the Adventist denomination is not a cult. Continued

    This is the real difference between these two distinct teachings of the Gospel of Jesus Christ. Christian teaching throughout the centuries declares Jesus Christ paid the price for ALL sin. Past, present and future. Salvation is by grace through faith in Jesus Christ and not of yourselves...
  7. steaver

    Walter Martin's "Kingdom of the Cults" declares Adventist are not a Cult and destroys Hoekema's book

    Even your non answering of my questions is answering my questions and exposing the fallacies you embrace.
  8. steaver

    Walter Martin's "Kingdom of the Cults" declares Adventist are not a Cult and destroys Hoekema's book

    And then there is the facts. I gave you the obvious message that glares from the text. You have your EGW tunnel vision on a one liner about eating the sacrifice, which you cannot even see the sacrifice, you can only see mice eating. Have you come up with any Christian denomination or...
  9. steaver

    Walter Martin's "Kingdom of the Cults" declares Adventist are not a Cult and destroys Hoekema's book

    Now isn't this a revealing statement? "Bias...forces" an interpretation/application of Scripture. Now that's pretty funny. Can you name one Christian denomination out of the many thousand that exist which agree with EGW's assertion that Is 66 is about Christians eating mice and being damned to hell?
  10. steaver

    Walter Martin's "Kingdom of the Cults" declares Adventist are not a Cult and destroys Hoekema's book

    There is a qualifier you are blantantly choosing to ignore. Christians do not sanctify and purify themselves to go to the gardens "following one in the center". What makes these things "detestable" is their unholy sacrifice. Paul said he as a strong Christian could eat anything he wants, even...
  11. steaver

    Walter Martin's "Kingdom of the Cults" declares Adventist are not a Cult and destroys Hoekema's book

    You will have to point us to the part that says a Christian will be damned to hell for eating mice. I see those who sanctify themselves, but obviously any Bible student would know that no Christian sacrifices animals and eats them to sanctify themselves. So like I said, you will have to do some...
  12. steaver

    Walter Martin's "Kingdom of the Cults" declares Adventist are not a Cult and destroys Hoekema's book

    It has been noted that you agree you never answered my question about eating pork. But you do want to talk about eating mice. Ok. Educate us all on SDA teaching concerning the eating of mice as it relates to christians being damned to hell.
  13. steaver

    Walter Martin's "Kingdom of the Cults" declares Adventist are not a Cult and destroys Hoekema's book

    I kept talking about pork, you kept saying you said nothing about pork. Thus, you never addressed the pork eating. If you have a "bible detail" on pork then point to it. Actually do some teaching on what you claim you believe about what the Bible says about eating pork. Your go to answer, "Read...
  14. steaver

    Walter Martin's "Kingdom of the Cults" declares Adventist are not a Cult and destroys Hoekema's book

    I asked you to discuss the pork eating and all you kept saying was read the Bible and believe it. Now if you want to point out a Bible detail on pork eating and expound on it I am all ears.
  15. steaver

    Walter Martin's "Kingdom of the Cults" declares Adventist are not a Cult and destroys Hoekema's book

    Yes Bob. We all read the Bible and believe it. So why are we all here on the BB? Oh that's right! We all believe the Bible is saying something different. So what do we do? Do we just keep telling each other to read the Bible and believe it?? Well isn't that instructive. Hey steaver! Why do...
  16. steaver

    Walter Martin's "Kingdom of the Cults" declares Adventist are not a Cult and destroys Hoekema's book

    Yeah, I keep asking about pork and you keep talking about mice. How instructive. You know one should be able to embrace and teach what they believe with boldness. It's very revealing how cultish sects always do the dance and game around when asked pointed questions. My work here has been a...
  17. steaver

    Walter Martin's "Kingdom of the Cults" declares Adventist are not a Cult and destroys Hoekema's book

    Well apparently the Bible you keep quoting has nothing to do with my question because you keep declaring you have answred nothing about eating pork but everything about eating mice. Thus, still waiting to here your answer on the pork. You gladly answered about mice, which I did not ask, but very...
  18. steaver

    Walter Martin's "Kingdom of the Cults" declares Adventist are not a Cult and destroys Hoekema's book

    In fact your made it clear.... So we need you to address my pork eating question.....
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