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    Romans 10:19, 11:11 Provoke to jealousy?

    Jeremiah 3:8 says Israel PLAYED a harlot, it didn't say she WAS a harlot. Furthermore, again, Israel here committed ADULTERY. Show me ANYWHERE in Revelation where the word adultery is used to describe the harlot of Revelation 17. Happy hunting, let me know when you find it. I'll give you a hint...
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    Romans 10:19, 11:11 Provoke to jealousy?

    This is a fairly accurate summation. Michael is Israel's "prince" (Dan 10:21) which is why he is the one battling Satan here. Satan believes that if he can destroy the remnant of Israel, he can prevent them from establishing the kingdom and prolong his incarceration (Rev 20:2). The wrath that...
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    Wouldn't God have to be "Open" in order to Allow Chance?

    So does God cause all confusion? It would seem to me that whoever causes an action is the author of that action, but yet 1 Cor 14:33 says that God is not the author of confusion. So either something is wrong with the Bible, or something is wrong with your theology. Foreknowledge does not...
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    Romans 10:19, 11:11 Provoke to jealousy?

    If you are taking the Historicist view of Revelation, ("Revelation is continually nonstop pointing back to what has already been written"), then you must allegorize the entire book to make it fit historical events and disregard the 1000 years of the reign of Christ in Revelation 20:1-4. You'd...
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    Major Contradiction in 1686 Westminster Confession

    There are things that one would have to ask to clarify the statement to understand the question the way I asked it. Section XXXIII, pIII refers to preaching judgment to deter all men from sin 1. Judgment FROM WHAT? 2. What SIN? If judgment is preached about adultery, fornication...
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    Romans 10:19, 11:11 Provoke to jealousy?

    Revelation 11:8 does not say that that Israel or Jerusalem is the harlot, it is identifying Jerusalem as SPIRITUALLY called Sodom and Egypt because there are a remnant still in rebellion, and it was the place where Christ was crucified. Notice that all the nations of the world commit...
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    Major Contradiction in 1686 Westminster Confession

    That's what I thought. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K8E_zMLCRNg
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    Major Contradiction in 1686 Westminster Confession

    The church does not teach SINNERS how to live, it teaches CHRISTIANS how to live. Show me one single verse in the Bible where the church teaches a SINNER how to live? Sinner being an unsaved, unregenerate person that has rejected Christ. You can't. Even in one of your other responses to my...
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    Romans 10:19, 11:11 Provoke to jealousy?

    That statement contradicts the Calvinist position of free will, and is erroneous on it's face. So if God does not act out of necessity, is God necessary? God can not do evil. So does not the very nature of God demand that He act according to His nature? It is necessary for God to act out...
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    Major Contradiction in 1686 Westminster Confession

    Once again, to show that you do not understand the issue, nor have stated it correctly you are avoiding the question, so I'll ask it again: Can a sinner that is foreordained to eternal death be deterred from the sin of unbelief that will eternally condemn him?
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    Wouldn't God have to be "Open" in order to Allow Chance?

    You are amalgamating different issues here: what God KNOWS and what God DOES. You can not say that chance can be Open Theism because OT holds that God doesn't know the future, He only learns of events as they occur. But part of chance is having an idea of what possible future consequences exist...
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    Wouldn't God have to be "Open" in order to Allow Chance?

    I agree that Open Theism is false doctrine, but you opened the door to it by claiming that choice was comparable to it, and thus if you are questioning whether or not choice is comparable to Open Theism, then you have to know what Open Theism is. You may not agree with choice, but to attribute...
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    Major Contradiction in 1686 Westminster Confession

    You are STILL missing the point. This not about deterring evil ACTIONS. It is about deterring man from a decision to remain IN SIN by rejecting Jesus Christ as the DELIVER from the PENALTY of sin, not the PRESENCE of sin. It is the latter that you are arguing for and that's not what the WC is...
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    Major Contradiction in 1686 Westminster Confession

    And what? Pointing to your own post is the authority for answering my question about providing Scripture and verse to support your position? Again, Scripture and verse that shows that the church even "restrains" evil. Paul says that in the latter days evil doers shall wax WORSE AND WORSE. 2...
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    Dave Hunt: What Love Is This?

    Considering that the Calvinists on here repeatedly vilify all Non Calvinists with as much vitriol as they can muster, yes it is a surprise that he was banned, but of course, there are hundreds of threads to monitor and it is likely that the mods can not possibly see all of what goes on UNLESS...
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    Is it BIBLICALLy Correct...

    Although this is a traditional Calvinist explanation of a wayward Christian, it is a dangerous assumption to make. The first half of this statement, I agree with. The latter half can only be proven by works, and that is an erroneous manner to determine whether someone is saved or not, because...
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    Major Contradiction in 1686 Westminster Confession

    Scripture and verse that the role of the Holy Spirit is to restrain evil in the world. John 16 and several other passages show that the Holy Spirit CONVICTS of matters of sin, not PREVENT them. Your reliance on Matthew 16:18 that the gates of hell would not prevail against the church has...
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    Major Contradiction in 1686 Westminster Confession

    You are misinterpreting the role of the Holy Spirit here in order to foist your argument against the obvious contradiction in the WC. The job of the Holy Spirit is not to PREVENT SIN. If that were the case, the fact that the world lives in a perpetual state of evil would prove you have a very...
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    Major Contradiction in 1686 Westminster Confession

    Again, just like agedman, you are interpreting deterrent as a deterrent from evil ACTS, and since this argument is being repeated to avoid the contradiction, it is clear that it is a deliberate obfuscation of the contradiction. The preaching of judgment as a deterrent has nothing to do with...
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    Major Contradiction in 1686 Westminster Confession

    Again, I am disagreeing with the CALVINIST POSITION, NOT MY OWN BELIEF. And again, you are taking 2 Thessalonains 2 completely out of context. If the restraint in 2 Thess is about removing the presence, power, and influence of sin, why do you think it's called TRIBULATION? This is not about a...
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