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  1. Agent47

    If God Never decreed/ordained the Fall...

    Yes. Do you see Arminians as Christians?
  2. Agent47

    Discussing/Debating beliefs

    Steer clear of 'nonsense questions' and threads.
  3. Agent47

    If God Never decreed/ordained the Fall...

    I don't care for Calvinists and @JonC is not a Calvinist. Vote, substantiate, then vent
  4. Agent47

    Discussing/Debating beliefs

    Valid point. I meant is it possible to believe all you have and conclude God as not authoring sin Ok. Thank you.
  5. Agent47

    If God Never decreed/ordained the Fall...

    Clarify. Did God decree or permit the Fall? The dizzying frequency with which these terms are interchanged amuses me hence my asking. Calvin (not you @JonC ) reckons it was decreed as per your definition. He was categorical that mere permission was fiction.
  6. Agent47

    Discussing/Debating beliefs

    Would you say they are inconsistent? I mean is it possible to believe all that and not to charge God with authoring Sin?
  7. Agent47

    Discussing/Debating beliefs

    So it's all about preference. Ok. What would you say of someone who holds on to all you said but at the same time vehemently denies God authored Sin? Thank you so much for your worthy contribution.
  8. Agent47

    Discussing/Debating beliefs

    Why is it so? Countless believers have grappled with it. Confessionals attempt to phrase it. How is this different from saying God authored Sin?
  9. Agent47

    Discussing/Debating beliefs

    Then saying God authored Sin shouldn't be a problem, right?
  10. Agent47

    If God Never decreed/ordained the Fall...

    Side shows. Umpteenth analogy. Why not deal with the actual event? Give your 'adequate' answer outside the poll. Do I need to repeat the question?
  11. Agent47

    If God Never decreed/ordained the Fall...

    Slideshows. How is it inconsistent? It is only inconsistent if you assume God not willing something means it can't/must not occur. 'If God does not Will, it can't happen. If it happens,God willed it' Manufactured circular reasoning cum 'logic':Roflmao Vote
  12. Agent47

    If God Never decreed/ordained the Fall...

    Vote,defend your choice, then engage in sideshows
  13. Agent47

    If God Never decreed/ordained the Fall...

    You have done neither. I note desperate attempts to 'prove' that God inventing and causing man to Sin is as bad as God creating a world where sin is possible, and permitting/allowing/not preventing it from happening. Scripture-wise and logically, God is not responsible for preventing men from...
  14. Agent47

    If God Never decreed/ordained the Fall...

    Thoroughly enjoying slideshows, but have you voted?
  15. Agent47

    If God Never decreed/ordained the Fall...

    God, for Satan and his angels Depends on your definition of sinful nature. Can either be resisted? That would seem to be the logical For you where do you draw your values from?
  16. Agent47

    If God Never decreed/ordained the Fall...

    What am saying is, saying 'not logical' without demonstrating it is shouting
  17. Agent47

    If God Never decreed/ordained the Fall...

    Ok. But I think he was saying if that were the case you can't question God. But is it the case? That you don't know, not that scripture is silent
  18. Agent47

    If God Never decreed/ordained the Fall...

    God infallibly reprobating billions for his glory and saving a few for his glory makes it pointless. He is essentially a confused monster working to undo his own ddecrees by other decrees yet he is glorified in all. God creating free beings who walk away from him is better. His crime again...
  19. Agent47

    If God Never decreed/ordained the Fall...

    Paul was addressing the question of Israel, and he was not ducking. Besides,his was hypothetical. Here we are addressing actual circumstances. Be humble enough to concede ignorance. God.
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