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  1. Agent47

    If God Never decreed/ordained the Fall...

    Wherefore, in ordaining the Fall of man especially, God had an end most glorious and most just; an end, into our contemplation of which the mention or idea of sin on the part of God can never enter; the very thought of its entrance strikes us with horror!~John Calvin,a Treatise on Eternal...
  2. Agent47

    Discussing/Debating beliefs

    It is equally important to define words and phrases. Christian cults are notorious for redefining words in ways that only make sense to insiders while naturally meaning something else to outsiders. Decree,predestinate,foreknowledge,sovereignty,glory ,ordain,rrender...
  3. Agent47

    Discussing/Debating beliefs

    As I've written elsewhere, beliefs are far from intellectual assent to ideas; we have invested so much time,energies,relationships and even money in them. This among others make us cling to them unreasonably, as well as violently defend them whenever threatened. I honestly would never face some...
  4. Agent47

    Compatibilism: Is God the Author of Sin?

    Compatibilism: God is the Author of Sin Somebody's theoretical framework is so peeved by this title that they changed it to whatever is palatable to their ears. Why not shut it altogether?
  5. Agent47

    Compatibilism: Is God the Author of Sin?

    You have asked of a specific case and I have answered and restricted myself to that. You are extrapolating. Strawmen. God's knowledge including foreknowledge is perfect. So He plans ahead, uses men's independent actions well foreknown to accomplish His purpose. More strawmen. Calm down. It's...
  6. Agent47

    Compatibilism: Is God the Author of Sin?

    I have answered you thrice. God exploited a wicked plan. He did not author it. His Will on the plan? Make the best of it. And this He did
  7. Agent47

    Compatibilism: Is God the Author of Sin?

    Say you have a twin brother JonD I'm 4 years younger than you JonC I can't be 3 years younger than JonD. To claim that is illogical. This is regardless of my beliefs. But if my reckoning of years shifts by say from 365 to 300 days, from JonD to JonC, I may have a point. Philosophers...
  8. Agent47

    Compatibilism: Is God the Author of Sin?

    Logic is no respecter of theories or beliefs. So it is not subject to interpretation. Do we need philosophy dictionaries on this?:Roflmao
  9. Agent47

    Compatibilism: Is God the Author of Sin?

    As I prepare my post on compatibilism, I wish to reiterate that their is a big difference between what Calvinism and Calvinists says, and what what Calvinism logically entails. After making an assertion/claim, you place yourself under a logical obligation to demonstrate the same. But...
  10. Agent47

    Compatibilism: Is God the Author of Sin?

    It's not word play but distinction without a difference. About to post my first on compatibilism.
  11. Agent47

    Compatibilism: Is God the Author of Sin?

    Here is the thread http://www.baptistboard.com/threads/calvin-god-is-the-author-of-sin.103073/ My objectives were clear. My person of interest was Calvin. Please go through it. Does Calvin repeatedly claiming that God is not the author of Sin absolve his theories of charging him with this...
  12. Agent47

    Compatibilism: Is God the Author of Sin?

    What's the difference between DECREEING and AUTHORING? Don't answer. It's Off topic. Your job here is to troll and derail this thread. I won't respond to you again. Get thee behind me troll
  13. Agent47

    Compatibilism: Is God the Author of Sin?

    I have not even started. Why are you jumping into conclusions? My objective is simple; demonstrate that under compatibilism, God is still culpable for the sins of men. Compatibilitists who deny this are either ignorant of compatibilism,or they are not compatibilitists (they may be LFWers)...
  14. Agent47

    Compatibilism: Is God the Author of Sin?

    You make a terrible comedian. Read the bold part of the OP. If it's not clear to you, I can't help you. Leave this thread alone
  15. Agent47

    Compatibilism: Is God the Author of Sin?

    Spam is irrelevant and OFF TOPIC posts. Please warn him/her
  16. Agent47

    Compatibilism: Is God the Author of Sin?

    Stick to your definition, I stick to mine....just ensure you stick to topic or get thee behind me ....
  17. Agent47

    Compatibilism: Is God the Author of Sin?

    It's even more foolish denying what you plainly subscribe to. There is something I told you about Calvinism being esoteric
  18. Agent47

    Compatibilism: Is God the Author of Sin?

    Protesting against charging God authoring Sin hardly counts as evidence against charging God with authoring Sin. There is nothing like "logical conclusion", logic is no respected of theories; it's either logical or illogical. Calvinism, or at least Consistent Calvinism charges God with...
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