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Certainly...fair enough. How is it that Calvinists, for instance automatically escape this accusation?....Arminians deal with this as a bald assertion.....apparently OT's do too.....this is merely asserted....what belief system is there that escapes this accusation??...How would an Open...

God also promised to preserve his word as well...we do not have the originals (thank God) but we do have a sum total of textual witnesses to what the originals said. In short...we do know...what the originals said...and there simply are no (despite how minor they may seem to be) mistakes in...

Allow me to put it this way.....the differences you have with them are not strictly Theological.... but largely Philosophical....and no amount of hurling Scriptures at them will make a difference to them, because they will affirm the truth of every Scripture you pose to them. And you will...

...and precisely why you don't get it.....both David and Moses were not "dismissed" as you claim...they SUFFERED CONSEQUENCES!!! for their actions....you seem to think that this woman should not. There might often be differences between the natural or earthly consequences for our actions and...

Cops.....100% correct Kid........100% wrong He got precisely what he had coming to him. John is prolly right....this sounds like "suicide by cop" it happens.

Of course.

I would add G.H. Orchards "History of Baptists" as a well-documented source as well.

This is sheer equivocation and a genetic fallacy

AMEN....:thumbsup: ABC...answered your question, and offered reasonable and constructive advice......she illustrated her point by utilizing herself as a negative example...of what not to do...you got in your feelings about it. Listen to what she has to say. Her humility does her credit. Your...

I think this begs a certain kind of "accumulation" aspect to the whole idea that I am not committed to.....I think if we do that.... then we run into questions like you submit above.....God chose the penalty for sin, and he set the standard for justice to be met....I think he might very well...

I am actually dissapointed.....truly disappointed by this blatant genetic fallacy...OT's despise process theology and seek to distance themselves from it....I am not an OT......but here is what you did..... you took a.... and a....Charles Hartshorne (June 5, 1897 – October 9, 2000) was a...

Allow the BAPTISTS here to explain......... Already scares us....maybe shouldn't....but it is what we are. Rightly or wrongly....this does not put actual Baptists at ease..... At this point....all we see are thumb screws. We are fleeing for our very lives from the Papists at this...

OW!!!!OW!!!!!:tonofbricks: :BangHead: Maybe you just exposed why Baptists hate creeds so much..............."Bible Teaching????" Pssshaaaawwww...Creedalistic Catholicism at its WORST!!! Why won't people get that.....even if it is good stuff.....no Baptist....no Baptist....wants this...

Well, I must confess I was too lazy to look up the chapter count....but as a whole....I think the notion of what I was trying to convey still basically remains. Decidedly, you are correct about the gospel of Mark, but proportionally Mark is weighted towards his earthly ministry more than the...

Aha...I was too lazy to look up who called me out for that mistake...my apologies for having equivocated....You are absolutely right....Hypers and Supras are not necessarily the same.

Hmmm....It sounds to me as though you are not differentiating between what you believe to be the logical consequences of their point of view and what their professed beliefs are...however they explain them.... I am merely responding to their professed beliefs, I think you are suggesting...

According to OT...he Can and he does no???

As far as what the Bible itself focuses on.....fully a third or more of all the gospels focus on the Last week of his life....with about 5 chapters each exclusively on the passion portion of it. That is what is most important.....the way I see it, his "teachings" were only novel inasmuch as...

I agree with Mandym here.....how do you really pit them against each other...I have not at any time seen Jesus...did he not say to Thomas something about those who have not seen him being more blessed? I believe in him because of the witness of the Scriptures. I suppose we will have to...

Actually, This may be the most concise, accurate and well articulated explanation of the OT view I have seen on this board.....YUP, ARES pretty well explained their position......To an OT..... Asking God to know this with 100% certainty.....having chosen to give his creatures free will, is...