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I understand. No offense taken. But it is best to face your wrong doings rather than to run from them. Repentance and being forgiven is a blessed thing!

Explain to me how a person can hate the Gospel of Jesus Christ, all that is holy and Godly, and be saved by the Gospel of Jesus Christ at the same time? Where did you say such? #57, "Your truncated, neutered gospel? You can have it. It will not save one soul".

Why? Why don't you just humble yourself and apologize for saying I hate the gospel? You do understand that ALL non-Cals point out the witnessing flaws found in Calvinism.

No, you said I hated the gospel, not Calvinism. Is that because you got your feelings hurt?

You indeed have a right to call it foolish, this is a debate forum. So how does this equate to hating the gospel and being unsaved?

You indeed have a right to call it foolish, this is a debate forum. So how does this equate to hating the gospel and being unsaved?

Deflection again. Deal with the content of my post. Four Calvinist believe non-Cals hate the gospel.

This is the sad reality of what Calvinism does to a person. This isn't just one person. We see on just this thread alone that four people here believe that if you do not agree with Calvinism's version of things, then you hate the Gospel and cannot be saved. On the other side, the non-Cals, I...

You are still missing the part that Esau was "hated" by God BEFORE he did anything right or wrong. There is no "offense" spoken of either with Esau or with your family who you are instructed to hate. So all these rabbit trails and deflection is not helping your case. "God hated His Son"? And...

You realize in this position you take you are declaring Jesus Christ offended God? Face it, God does not "hate" as we humans understand or apply the word hate. His ways are far above our ways...

Your reiterating your family did not "offend" you. The passage has nothing to do with them offending you. Esau did not offend God for he was not yet born, did not yet do anything right or wrong. And to say God hated the Son at the point He took on sin is ridiculous, but that is where Calvinism...

Don't forget to provide your proof brothers and sister. The board is waiting.......

Where in the passage did Jesus say "if they offend you, then you should hate them"? Here is what he said.... "If any man come to me, and hate not his father, and mother, and wife, and children, and brethren, and sisters, yea, and his own life also, he cannot be my disciple." Also it says God...

Amen! Did you tell her about Jesus dying for her?

Do you hate your mother and father? Your children, your brothers and sisters? Your wife?

Yes, God is holy. The Scripture says we identify with God when we love ALL, even our enemies. You really have no way around this. You are trying to dismiss it. Declaring God is holy actually confirms it. God's very attribute of holiness is what causes Him to love everyone. God is love. You make...

Let me ask you a question. Are those who reject Calvinism quenching the Spirit?

My conduct? Please provide a quote that shows I have .... "....hatred of the Gospel of Salvation by Grace alone through faith alone, and those who preach it",...and ... compels him (me) to attack all that is good, and holy, and Godly". If you cannot, then who is doing the lying? ;) Also, the...

Of course a Calvinist would say as much. But I know the Holy Spirit brother. And I follow His lead when witnessing. He guides me into all truth. I can witness to depressed and distraught strangers with my convictions. Can you? How would you have handled this girl brother? What would you have...

And this has something to do with some Calvinist declaring non-cals hate the Gospel and hate God???