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No need to "think" here Icon. Just read the question in the OP :thumbsup:

So this is your answer to the OP? God hates the non-elect because he foresees them through a futuristic Adam?

:laugh: Good one! When did you answer mine?

Are you sure you posted in the right thread? The question was 'why does God hate the non-elect?'

So your saying God based His hatred for the non-elect on knowing beforehand that mankind would fall

This does not satisfy the question. For I believe the Calvinist declares God hates these (non-elect) before they were ever born and ever committed any sin or unrighteousness. Thus, the question remains - why does God hate them?

I would like to hear from our Calvinist brothers and sisters here on 'Why God Hates' ? Here is a quote from brother Willis.... Every Calvinist I have seen post here seems to agree with this concept that God hates the non-elect. The question for the Calvinist is 'Why does God hate them?'...

Then my conclusion is correct, but you call it absurd. Calvinist have God hating a great portion of His Creation before He ever created it, and for no reason whatsoever. But the Scripture states God created and seen His Creation as very good.

"...Sirs, what must I DO to be saved? And they said, DON"T DO ANYTHING, THERE IS NOTHING YOU CAN DO, JUST WAIT ON GOD AND SEE IF HE HAS CHOSEN YOU TO BELIEVE ON THE LORD JESUS CHRIST, and thou shalt be saved, and thy house." - (Calvin Version)

Did God hate the non elect before or after thy were ever born?

The Calvinist declares that God loves some and hates the rest. So an answer to your OP question could be natural man hates God and His Gospel because God first hated natural man.

who in their right mind would ever want to proudly declare they are calvinist?!!!!!!!!!!! Sick!! And this man is hailed as having the holy spirit teach him the mechanics of election through the word???

Guess you haven't been following the conversation. Pay attention grasshopper! :thumbsup: Good example! :thumbsup: John Calvin wanted to rid the world of anti-Cals...against God's will and Jesus teaching as well.

Another good question would be why would the Holy Spirit teach a man (John Calvin) ideas that would lead him to persecute and exterminate those who would disagree with those ideas?

Another good question would be why would the Spirit of Truth lead one to something that would cause great divide among Jesus' sheep?

He wouldn't...

That's exactly what my OP is on. :thumbs: But it takes more than just reading God's Word, anyone can do that. One must have the Spirit of Truth enabling one to believe the Freewill Doctrines of Grace. Which btw, recognizes the Sovereignty of God in which the Sovereign God of this Universe has...

A person does not gain the knowledge of the Freewill Doctrines of Grace, any more than a person one day just becomes a Christian. It takes a work of Divine enablement.

...whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have eternal life. But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name: Which were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God. The...

Once one has received the Holy Spirit of Truth, resistance to the Word of God falls totally away. Sheep simply follow the Word as it is written. There is no need to go digging for any hidden mysteries...Because it is given unto you to know the mysteries of the kingdom of heaven, but to them it...