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See I can't comprehend what it is some of you guys were once believing. I have believed salvation was ALL of God from beginning to end ever since I read it in the Scriptures. Exercising a "natural" faith is only a step towards receiving God's saving faith/regeneration. One calls upon the Lord...

Please bring forth a post from me where I twisted, changed, altered, clipped or snipped anything you posted. I always quoted you word for word, context for context, FULL quote for FULL quote. You can't, so nobody is going to wait and see if you step up and back up your accusation. Once again...

But you are not a Calvinist brother. If you shall ever become one, then you too shall look down your nose at us stiff necked and unlearned goats. You try to have reasonable debate, but you are not dealing with a theology which has room for brotherly love towards those who do not comply...

And right on cue you once again prove my point. :thumbsup: Tony already seen your accusations against those who reject TULIP. You have been very faithful at reiterating it over and over for the board to see. But as I said brother, you are being faithful to Calvinism and telling it like Calvinism...

Brother Tony, brother Icon is very clear that he holds the position no belief in TULIP = No sheep. It's funny because he will flat out make comments, as you can see, declaring as much and then he will say "Huh, where did I say that? Duh". He will just toil with you on this and act like he never...

Sorry to inform you brother, you are not God, and you are not an apostle either.

I did not say two types of "saving faith".

So you believe there are two separate types of faiths going on here. One, the faith that God gives to believe on Jesus Christ (saving faith) and two, the faith which comes from an individuals own self will.

Self will can hinder the Holy Spirit? Interesting. Kinda sounds like the Spirit can be resisted.

Well, then there is some kind of invitation going on. We don't like the raise your hand or walk an isle = salvation approach either. We invite folks to step out as a confession that they believe and invite them to the front so the elders can pray with them and help guide them to discipleship...

So I am assuming you are a preacher/pastor? So how do you invite the lost to follow Jesus? You don't ask them to come to an alter for prayer? How do you know who is being saved? I was also wondering about your statement of faith - "Because I have placed my faith in Christ alone for my...

Well tell me, what do you do differently now that you believe in TULIP?

And as I said many times, say TULIP is correct, so what? From the preachers I have observed, both Calvinist and Non, they both preach to the lost the same way. So why let TULIP divide us???

This is what I like about the C&MA, they focus on the Great Commission and the Gospel. Not on these non-essential squabbles. Don't misunderstand, I like these theological debates, keeps one engaged in the study of Scripture, but in regards to statements of faith and membership requirements, it...

There will be an important development when you address the FACT that you tied belief in TULIP with John 10, which is a passage distinguishing the lost from the saved. And there will be an important development if another Calvinist actually rebukes you for it, I doubt it, because I believe all...

Does enabled equate to caused?

You seem to not be comprehending. When you originally made the comment that one can only believe in Calvinism by Divine Enablement, and gave Matt 13 as support, which is a passage distinguishing between the lost and the saved, therefore another declaration that unless one believes in Calvinism...

You keep trying to twist what I asked. As often as you try, I can keep posting the original quote which my question clearly states "perhaps" the Spirit is failing to teach the sheep TULIP. At which you replied No and gave John 10 as support - No TULIP = No sheep. Keep trying though! Everytime...

Whoso loveth instruction loveth knowledge: but he that hateth reproof is brutish.

Willis, what dog do you have in this repentance part? According to your views God just makes them repent from everything. Nobody has to DO anything. That would be freewill.