Anything good from alcohol?

Boy, are you deceived.

 

A Christian Responsibility. Christian churches bear considerable responsibility for the inestimable human and economic costs of alcohol, because through their beliefs, teachings and preaching they are able to influence the moral values and practices of society, possibly more than does any other institution. For example, in the early part of this century evangelical churches played a major role in influencing the passing of the Eighteenth Amendment to the Constitution of the United States on January 16, 1919, outlawing the "manufacture, sale or transportation" of alcoholic beverages.
Since the repeal of Prohibition in 1933, however, most churches have abandoned their stand for total abstinence, encouragin " moderation" instead. Unfortunately, moderation has led over 18 million Americans to become immoderate drinkers,5 because alcohol is a habit-forming narcotic which weakens one’s capacity for self-control.

 

Apparently the website is trying to hide something then if your hardcopy has something that they don't.

Webster did not put out two different dictionaries contradicting each other in the same year! CBT must have purposely left the rest of the definitions off.

 

Historians that lived in that era and others would certainly know.

Cato born 234 BC wrote of non-alcoholic wine
Horace 65-8 BC
Pliny born c23 AD
Plutarch
Socrates

All these men wrote of the non-fermented wines, in Bible times. Since they all lived during the times of the prophets and apostles, they would know what wines were used during that time.

 

Seems this study goes a lot farther than just what you think.

The Meaning of "Wine." The objective of the survey conducted in Chapter 2 was to ascertain if the terms used for "wine" in the Bible denote exclusively fermented wine or inclusively either fermented or unfermented wine. I traced the usage of the word "wine" backward, from English, to Latin, Greek and finally to Hebrew. The survey shows that the four related words—wine in English, vinum in Latin, oinos in Greek and yayin in Hebrew—have been used historically to refer to the juice of the grape, whether fermented or unfermented. This significant finding discredits the claim that the Bible knows only fermented wine, which it approves when used moderately. The truth of the matter is that the Bible knows both fermented wine, which it disapproves, and unfermented grape juice, which it approves.

 

I asked earlier for the references. I still see none. If you have read those authors you could easily provide them.

 

The Jewish Encyclopedia provides a concise description of the various usages of yayin: "Fresh wine before fermenting was called ‘yayin mi-gat’’ (wine of the vat; Sanh 70a). The ordinary wine was of current vintage. The vintage of the previous year was called ‘yayin yashan’’(old wine). The third year’s vintage was ‘yayin meyushshan’’(very old wine)." The Jewish Encyclopedia, 1906 ed., s. v. "Wine," vol. 12, p. 533.

MUST, n. [L. mustum; Heb. to ferment.]
New wine; wine pressed from the grape but not fermented. 1828 Websters Dictionary
(one would not think to look for the word 'must' when looking for wine.

 

He does not know. I asked earlier and he continues to spread SYI.

 

Of course they would know and they would have used the language of their time; yayin, shekar, oinos, they would have known all these words since they lived in that era

 

I have never seen freshly pressed grape juice instantly turn to wine and burst old wineskins. Have you? When wine ferments it is only then that it can burst old wineskins.

 

Cato lived in an era when Hebrew was still spoken, he would have been familiar with the Hebrew language.

 

Jesus said when new wine was put into new wineskins, both were preserved. If it was sealed, it was kept new in the new wineskins and did not ferment.

 

Well, at least you got it down to a very low content. lol