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Catholic Who Embraced Jesus As Lord And Savior

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JonShaff

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Oh in case you did not get the memo your deeds are your works, many ways to express the same thing. That is why God has given us a very extensive vocabulary, and YES He Himself uses many different words. Keep sleeping:Sleep and you will not like what is coming!:(. You already don't like how you are feeling. REPENT!
So, in the end, if our good deeds outweigh our evil deeds we can enter into heaven? A simple yes or no will suffice, thank you.
 

OfLivingWaters

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So, in the end, if our good deeds outweigh our evil deeds we can enter into heaven? A simple yes or no will suffice, thank you.
Well, I am not simple because God is not. I will give you a YES with a complexity. This has to do with sin (Unintentional) and sin which leads to death (intentional) meaning when one knows the truth and has been taught the truth and rejects it out of pride.

Speaking for Christians- of silver , and gold quality, they, if they unintentionally sin are granted a grace when they die, in that they have embraced Christ as their savior and they have directed people to Christ, but they themselves do not realize they may only be silver, and therefore, have dross ( some errors in doctrine). Gold has some dross. Silver? .....you may be.

But if starting now, you accept the error of your ways and repent , you can be made a precious gem. That would require rejecting all the falsehood doctrine you have believed in and/or put out there .By repenting, and preaching only truth you will be saved and will move up in quality.

Effective Prayer1 John 5:15-17
…15And if we know that He hears us in whatever we ask, we know that we already possess what we have asked of Him. 16If anyone sees his brother committing a sin not leading to death, he should ask God, who will give life to those who commit this kind of sin. There is a sin that leads to death; I am not saying he should ask regarding that sin. 17All unrighteousness is sin, yet there is sin that does not lead to death.…

The sin that does not lead to death is unintentional sin. You can no longer claim that now ,for you have been shown the full truth.
The Choice of Life or Death Deuteronomy 30:18-20
…18I declare to you today that you will surely perish; you shall not prolong your days in the land you are crossing the Jordan to possess. ( Jordan means flow down or descent you are called to cross over and not fall into the descent)19I call heaven and earth as witnesses against you today that I have set before you life and death, blessing and cursing. So choose life, so that you and your descendants may live, 20and that you may love the LORD your God, OBEY HIM, and hold fast to Him. For He is your life, and He will prolong your life in the land the LORD swore to give to your fathers, Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob.”…

Rejecting your admonishment will result in you being down graded to being completely hay wood and straw. Those in know have no excuses. BIG LIFE DECISION for you. Hay, wood and straw do not have Christ within them, and have no faith therefore no Grace or Mercy.
 

JonShaff

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Well, I am not simple because God is not. I will give you a YES with a complexity. This has to do with sin (Unintentional) and sin which leads to death (intentional) meaning when one knows the truth and has been taught the truth and rejects it out of pride.

Speaking for Christians- of silver , and gold quality, they, if they unintentionally sin are granted a grace when they die, in that they have embraced Christ as their savior and they have directed people to Christ, but they themselves do not realize they may only be silver, and therefore, have dross ( some errors in doctrine). Gold has some dross. Silver? .....you may be.

But if starting now, you accept the error of your ways and repent , you can be made a precious gem. That would require rejecting all the falsehood doctrine you have believed in and/or put out there .By repenting, and preaching only truth you will be saved and will move up in quality.

Effective Prayer1 John 5:15-17
…15And if we know that He hears us in whatever we ask, we know that we already possess what we have asked of Him. 16If anyone sees his brother committing a sin not leading to death, he should ask God, who will give life to those who commit this kind of sin. There is a sin that leads to death; I am not saying he should ask regarding that sin. 17All unrighteousness is sin, yet there is sin that does not lead to death.…

The sin that does not lead to death is unintentional sin. You can no longer claim that now ,for you have been shown the full truth.
The Choice of Life or Death Deuteronomy 30:18-20
…18I declare to you today that you will surely perish; you shall not prolong your days in the land you are crossing the Jordan to possess. ( Jordan means flow down or descent you are called to cross over and not fall into the descent)19I call heaven and earth as witnesses against you today that I have set before you life and death, blessing and cursing. So choose life, so that you and your descendants may live, 20and that you may love the LORD your God, OBEY HIM, and hold fast to Him. For He is your life, and He will prolong your life in the land the LORD swore to give to your fathers, Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob.”…

Rejecting your admonishment will result in you being down graded to being completely hay wood and straw. Those in know have no excuses. BIG LIFE DECISION for you. Hay, wood and straw do not have Christ within them, and have no faith therefore no Grace or Mercy.
Let me help you.

Run from your religion of dead works and allow yourself to be broken on the Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. It is through the veil of His flesh and what He was given as a result of my Father Raising Him from the Dead that brings to us forgiveness and Salvation. The presence of God has been restored to us through the Lord Jesus Christ. This is available by the grace of God through faith in the Lord Jesus Christ. Turn from your wicked religion of self-righteous works and flee to Christ!
 

OfLivingWaters

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HMM, opinion with not one stitch of scripture to back you up. Plus rejecting half the scripture to support your false narrative???
I will not descend from my position. Let God deal with you!
 

OfLivingWaters

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The hay that thinks its Christian:
Matthew 7:21-23
I Never Knew You
21 “Not everyone who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but the one who does the will of my Father who is in heaven. (OBEYS ALL HIS SON'S DECREES FROM THE LEAST OF THEM TO THE GREATEST AND TEACHES THEM ALL AS GREAT)22 On that day many will say to me, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name, and cast out demons in your name, and do many mighty works in your name?’ 23 And then will I declare to them, ‘I never knew you; depart from me, you workers of lawlessness.’
Coat tail riders who only use His name but are not in Him. Your work is of demons and is to bring glory to your diluted false doctrine and your own name and the worship of your demons your praise is from men , not God. John 12:4343For they loved praise from men more than praise from God. The Word of the Lord, Thanks be to God.

Have at it!

Wisdom Calls Aloud Proverbs 1:25-27
…25because you neglected all my counsel, and wanted none of my correction, 26in turn I will mock your calamity; I will sneer when terror strikes you, 27when your dread comes like a storm, and your destruction like a whirlwind, when distress and anguish overwhelm you.…
 
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Yeshua1

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Well then by your own admission you are the pot calling the kettle black. For if you ARE teaching solely from the scriptures you would be able to recognize all truth. You wold have the Holy Spirit and would then be, infallible. But since you admit you are not ,you contradict yourself (further showing yourself to not be the immaculate Bride of Christ) and therefore must cast the the beam from your own eye, before you can see clearly to cast it out of your brothers. WOW! just WOW! And now what is the real gospel, and how do you teach it, and don't all have the real gospel in that we all have bibles? So if you teach the REAL gospel , again is your church infallible?
In the areas that we fully agree with what the scriptures teach, yes we would be!
We would teach the real Gospel of Christ Jesus....
 

Yeshua1

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Really so why does Paul mention sprinkling and you better be able to back up what you say with scripture alone because I am about to blow your claims up!
Paul mentions going down into/under the water, and then being brought back up, and that would be immersion, not sprinkling!
 

Yeshua1

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Oh really? Now you will add to your repertoire ,a seer of men's hearts? So another words, because I do not love the lies being spoken by some of your denomination I have not love? There are two kinds of love devilish, which you seem to say is what I need to be in, and Godly which I am speaking in because I am addressing false doctrine. I address everyone's not just yours! I have more love than you then it would seem, and that in true love of God, His word and all believers.
IF you really were into addressing false doctrines, would be using the Bib le to refute the false doctrines and dogmas of the Church of Rome!
 

Yeshua1

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Yes, this is deja vu all over again. One cannot be in full fellowship with both a Baptist and Catholic church at the same time. I cannot in good conscience participate in the Eucharist at a Catholic church, and the priest there cannot in good conscience allow me to participate.
Both churches cannot be teaching the same Gospel, as they contradict each other in that!
 

Yeshua1

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My Baptism at that Baptist Church was done via immersion as a public profession of faith that I had given my life to Christ. I still consider my Baptism as a baby in the Catholic Church to be valid because it was done in the name of the Holy Trinity. I don't accept the Catholic doctrine of Transubstantiation. I accept the Lutheran doctrine of Holy Communion. I also accept the Baptist doctrine of Holy Communion.
You can't do that, as they contradict each other!
 

MartyF

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I am a Baptized member of both the Catholic Church and a local Baptist Church.

I was infant Baptized against my will in the Catholic Church by a Catholic Priest, but never took Eucharist or Communion or whatever they call it. Do they still consider me Catholic?

Is Baptizing a child against his will considered child abuse?

:Tongue:Ninja
 

JonShaff

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HMM, opinion with not one stitch of scripture to back you up. Plus rejecting half the scripture to support your false narrative???
I will not descend from my position. Let God deal with you!
Revelation 22:17 (KJV) And the Spirit and the bride say, Come. And let him that heareth say, Come. And let him that is athirst come. And whosoever will, let him take the water of life freely.
 

37818

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I was infant Baptized against my will in the Catholic Church by a Catholic Priest, but never took Eucharist or Communion or whatever they call it. Do they still consider me Catholic?

Is Baptizing a child against his will considered child abuse?

:Tongue:Ninja
I am not aware that the Roman rite immerses babies. The Orthodox rite do. In any case, if it is not immersion it is not baptism. And it is not believer's baptism.
 

Yeshua1

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I was infant Baptized against my will in the Catholic Church by a Catholic Priest, but never took Eucharist or Communion or whatever they call it. Do they still consider me Catholic?

Is Baptizing a child against his will considered child abuse?

:Tongue:Ninja
Nope
 

Iconoclast

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That book is bunk
Hello Walter,
It has plenty of factual information that is exactly correct. Having been raised RC. I was shocked to discover many of those things .Much of church teaching is not found in scripture.
Certainly popes fathering child out of wedlock was not a biblical concept.
Purgatory, saints, Mary as co mediatrix,priests, saints, indulgences, rosary beads scapular, stations of the cross,God parents,etc...are you sure about your statement my friend?
 

Iconoclast

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The Roman Church has another Jesus and another gospel.
2 Corinthians 11:4.
The Church taught correctly on the trinity. The works gospel is where much damage occurs. I sometimes think some will read a bible and God will deal with with them despite the church.
 

Iconoclast

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I was infant Baptized against my will in the Catholic Church by a Catholic Priest, but never took Eucharist or Communion or whatever they call it. Do they still consider me Catholic?

Is Baptizing a child against his will considered child abuse?

:Tongue:Ninja
No....you would have had your first holy communion as they call it at seven yrs old. Confirmation at 12 yrs old.
 

Walter

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Hello Walter,
It has plenty of factual information that is exactly correct. Having been raised RC. I was shocked to discover many of those things .Much of church teaching is not found in scripture.
Certainly popes fathering child out of wedlock was not a biblical concept.
Purgatory, saints, Mary as co mediatrix,priests, saints, indulgences, rosary beads scapular, stations of the cross,God parents,etc...are you sure about your statement my friend?

Read the Catechism of the Catholic Church. You will see teachings absolutely grounded in God's holy word. And, btw, you think evangelical pastors don't have children out of wed-lock?
 
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