1689Dave
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“But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his.” Romans 8:9 (NCPB)
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Did Jesus die for the sin of unbelief?
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Barry Johnson
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POST HOCK RATIONALIZATION . perfect example . That is calvinism in a nut shell .
Catholics do the same . ' Mary was Jesus,s Mother . Jesus is God , therefore Mary must be the Mother of God . "
Barry Johnson
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The pharisees were not learning of the Father like the sheep were .
Barry Johnson
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Yes when !!! you have !!! the Holy Spirit then you have Patience. Does that sound right or could there be something else to it ? They have a extra measure of it now they are saved . Sinners have Joy but not Joy as a believer. They have Faith . ( every man has a measure of faith ) but not the same as some believers have a GIFT
Yes if a person doesn't have the Holy Spirt hes not saved .
Barry Johnson
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No Joy is a fruit of the Spirit not a fruit given to a believer. It says Fruit ' singular of who ? The Holy Spirit .
Barry Johnson
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if you drop the silly idea of 'regeneration precedes faith ( which is the craziest idea every to come out of christendom) then the problem is not there .
1689Dave
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Because Jesus didn't die for them.
1689Dave
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Dead people cannot find God much less believe in him. They always choose idols they think are Jesus. Do you worship a Christ of your making?
1689Dave
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Human faith is sinful and worships idols. Do you believe in a Jesus the flesh will accept, as wicked as it is?
1689Dave
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So unsaved people remain unsaved until God gives them the Holy Spirit?
1689Dave
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You must really hate God if Calvin was right.
Barry Johnson
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says no verse. Again thats the system already in your mind .
1689Dave
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Did you choose tho be saved? Or did God save you?
1689Dave
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It's there if you are discerning. If you cannot see it, it's not a good sign.
Barry Johnson
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Dead people aren't breathing, walking , getting married , making decisions, choosing which socks to wear and everything.
1689Dave
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But they are dead spiritually to God.
Barry Johnson
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A sign that God has determined for believer's to see His so called doctrines of grace and reject them for his Glory . makes perfect sense ?
1689Dave
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If you cannot understand plain scripture, it's a bad sign.
Barry Johnson
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Where do
I heard the Gospel and believed. Just like every Calvinist ever did if he is saved . Its later that he is decieved into false doctrine .
rom 1.16
16¶For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; to the Jew first, and also to the Greek.
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1689Dave
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“And a certain woman named Lydia, a seller of purple, of the city of Thyatira, which worshipped God, heard us: whose heart the Lord opened, that she attended unto the things which were spoken of Paul.” Acts 16:14 (NCPB)
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