free will vs. election???????

[preacher4truth]

might as well call me a Preterist while your at it :godisgood::godisgood:

Answer the question if you believe in your position. No need to chase rabbit trails.

 

[convicted1]

if you reject the scriptures I gave that plainly show that forever and the like verses were age lasting and not eternal--then that is your choice--someone cant be in the earth's bars FOREVER and get out 3 days later--that is NOT eternal but age lasting and all the other scriptures are in the same likeness--study and you will see them:godisgood::godisgood:

I suggest you learn the difference between figurative and literal languages.......

 

[preacher4truth]

if you reject the scriptures I gave that plainly show that forever and the like verses were age lasting and not eternal--then that is your choice--someone cant be in the earth's bars FOREVER and get out 3 days later--that is NOT eternal but age lasting and all the other scriptures are in the same likeness--study and you will see them:godisgood::godisgood:

IOW, yes he is ME.

 

[convicted1]

Answer the question if you believe in your position. No need to chase rabbit trails.

He won't do it. He's has to let God give it to him first.....

 

[convicted1]

IOW, yes he is ME.

Winner, winner, chicken dinner....eventhough you've already had chicken earlier....

 

[HisWitness]

So HisWitness, you're an Millennial Exclusionist, correct?

Brother im learning slowly by the Grace of God--NOT to let the false traditions of men hold me back from seeing God's truths--it takes a bit because our minds are so geared in certain directions--God has to re-route our mind in the right direction before we can start learning more of his truth

 

[preacher4truth]

im learning slowly by the Grace of God--NOT to let the false traditions of men hold me back from seeing God's truths--it takes a bit because our minds are so geared in certain directions--God has to re-route our mind in the right direction before we can start learning more of his truth

So you're an Millennial Exclusionist then? Don't be ashamed, give God the glory as Achan did.

 

[Amy.G]

God has to re-route our mind in the right direction before we can start learning more of his truth

Yes, and redefine words as well.

 

[HeirofSalvation]

Yes, and redefine words as well.

EXCELLENT!!! :wavey::wavey::thumbs:

That's precisely what we Arminians have been insisting on all along.......and you have admitted it to the entire internet.
Calvinism insists upon "re-defining words"...........Only if one is willing to "re-define" words to their satisfaction is Calvinism a legitimate system.

Amy let the proverbial cat out of the bag.

Calvinism re-defines words.

I submit to all lurkers this quote.

 

[Iconoclast]

you notice I never said I prayed to a dead saint ?

I apologized to God FIRST I mentioned and secondly was sorry that I had argued with spurgeons message.

Blessings to you Brother and mercy from the Lord himself :love2:

Seems you are like the scribes was to jesus--was looking for anything in his words or deeds that they might condemn him before people:jesus:

OUCH:thumbs:
2 And they watched him, whether he would heal him on the sabbath day; that they might accuse him.

Like this....:wavey:

 

[HisWitness]

So HisWitness, you're an Millennial Exclusionist, correct?

well explain to me what that really means ?

 

[preacher4truth]

well explain to me what that really means ?

Why bother? You resemble it yourself.

 

[HeirofSalvation]

OUCH:thumbs:
2 And they watched him, whether he would heal him on the sabbath day; that they might accuse him.

Like this....:wavey:

You are insufferable Icon..................

You take H.W's explanation carte-blanche..........even though I QUOTED HIM DIRECTLY

and yet you will not repent of the INFINITELY more veiled accussation you made against Dr. J.

I'm not out for H.W's blood........

I realize that what he initially said was just stupid and poorly phrased....................and yet YOU have yet to admit that your accusations against Dr. J. of "blasphemy" are ill-advised and dangerous.

Heres the reality ICON:

I can QUOTE DIRECTLY H.W. asking "C.H. Spurgeon" for "forgiveness".

That's a REAL fact.

Yet you have spent post upon post lying and falsely accussing Dr. J. of "blasphemy"......

You don't understand the difference between the two situations.
H. W.'s post was rather stupid........but, I know that that isn not where his heart is, and that that is not what he meant to convey (even though I quote him word for word).

Yet you are un-willing to show as much grace to Dr. J. when it comes to your false accusation of "Blasphemy"..........Which I explained in detail OVER and OVER.

You have no capacity for discernment what-so-ever.

 

[HisWitness]

Why bother? You resemble it yourself.

you wanted me to give a direct answer---now when I ask for a definition of what you were referring too--you now don't want a direct answer---mm do you even know what it means that you were asking me about ?

 

[Amy.G]

EXCELLENT!!! :wavey::wavey::thumbs:

That's precisely what we Arminians have been insisting on all along.......and you have admitted it to the entire internet.
Calvinism insists upon "re-defining words"...........Only if one is willing to "re-define" words to their satisfaction is Calvinism a legitimate system.

Amy let the proverbial cat out of the bag.

Calvinism re-defines words.

I submit to all lurkers this quote.

I don't think so. There is no Calvinist that believes eternal doesn't mean eternal.

 

[HisWitness]

You are insufferable Icon..................

You take H.W's explanation carte-blanche..........even though I QUOTED HIM DIRECTLY

and yet you will not repent of the INFINITELY more veiled accussation you mad against Dr. J.

I'm not out for H.W's blood........

I realize that what he initially said was just stupid and poorly phrased....................and yet YOU have yet to admit that your accusations against Dr. J. of "blasphemy" are ill-advised and dangerous.

Heres the reality ICON:

I can QUOTE DIRECTLY H.W. asking "C.H. Spurgeon" for "forgiveness".

That's a REAL fact.

Yet you have spent post upon post lying and falsely accussing Dr. J. of "blasphemy"......

You don't understand the difference between the two situations.
H. W.'s post was rather stupid........but, I know that that isn not where his heart is, and that that is not what he meant to convey (even though I quote him word for word).

Yet you are un-willing to show as much grace to Dr. J. when it comes to your false accusation of "Blasphemy"..........Which I explained in detail OVER and OVER.

You have no capacity for discernment what-so-ever.

Brother seems you have a hostility problem towards the truth--hope you find peace from the Lord--may he grant you grace and mercy:godisgood:

 

[HeirofSalvation]

Brother seems you have a hostility problem towards the truth--hope you find peace from the Lord--may he grant you grace and mercy:godisgood:

Brother seems you have a hostility problem towards the truth--hope you find peace from the Lord--may he grant you grace and mercy:godisgood:[/

 

[Amy.G]

you wanted me to give a direct answer---now when I ask for a definition of what you were referring too--you now don't want a direct answer---mm do you even know what it means that you were asking me about ?

Do you believe that some disobedient saints will spend a time in outer darkness with weeping and gnashing of teeth?

 

[HeirofSalvation]

Icon..
Brother seems you have a hostility problem towards the truth--hope you find peace from the Lord--may he grant you grace and mercy:godisgood:

 

[HeirofSalvation]

H.W:
Brother seems you have a hostility problem towards the truth--hope you find peace from the Lord--may he grant you grace and mercy:godisgood: