One absurd argument after another is being made by those who deny that the many were condemned through the transgression of Adam.
Jesus is the perfect image of God, whereas we are flawed, therefore simply a likeness of God. It is a strawman argument to say the Fall means we are no longer made in the image of God.
When we are conceived are we "in Christ" or outside of Christ? If outside of Christ, we can label this condition as being in Adam. Also since we are made alive together with Christ, we can conclude we are not alive when not together with Christ. QED
When we are conceived, we are upright.
Ecc 7:29 Lo, this only have I found, that God hath made man
upright; but they have sought out many inventions.
When we mature enough to understand good from evil and willfully sin, we spiritually die.
Isa 7:16 For before the child shall know to refuse the evil, and choose the good, the land that thou abhorrest shall be forsaken of both her kings.
This verse proves children do not at first know between good and evil. This is supported by Deut 1:39.
Deut 1:39 Moreover your little ones, which ye said should be a prey, and your children,
which in that day had no knowledge between good and evil, they shall go in thither, and unto them will I give it, and they shall possess it.
Little children have no knowledge between good and evil and therefore cannot be guilty of committing sin. When a person matures and understands between good and evil and sins, then he dies.
Rom 7:9 For I was alive without the law once: but when the commandment came, sin revived, and
I died.
10 And the commandment, which
was ordained to life, I found
to be unto death.
11 For sin, taking occasion by the commandment, deceived me, and by it
slew me.
When was Paul ever without the law? The law was written 1500 years before Paul was born. The only possible answer is that Paul is speaking of when he was a child and had no knowledge between good and evil. Paul didn't say he thought he was alive as some falsely say, Paul directly said he was alive. This is not possible if Original Sin is true. But if OS is false and men are born upright as Ecc 7:29 directly says, then a man can spiritually die when he learns the law and sins.
And when he repents and "returns" to God as 1 Pet 2:25 says, he is born again, he is "alive again" as Jesus said in Luke 15.
Luk 15:24 For this my son was dead, and is
alive again; he was lost, and is found. And they began to be merry.
If Original Sin is true, then no man could be "alive again" as Jesus said. If Original Sin is true, then Paul could have never been "alive" as he says he was. If Original Sin is true, then no man could be "returned" to God as 1 Pet 2:25 says.
You can act like you do not understand this all you want Van, a little child could easily understand this. The scriptures do not say we are born dead in sin, you cannot show it anywhere in scripture, it is not there.
"In Adam" is used only once in all of scripture and is speaking of the physical resurrection of our bodies. This verse does not say we are dead in Adam, it says in Adam all die. This is the physical corruption we inherited from Adam, not spiritual. All men physically die.
You cannot show any scripture that says we are born dead in sin, I challenge you to show it. But I have showed scripture that says we are made upright, and that we were alive before we spiritually died.
So put up, or shut up.
