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Featured Is Creation BY or THROUGH Jesus Christ?

Discussion in 'Baptist Theology & Bible Study' started by SavedByGrace, Jan 14, 2022.

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    For the casual reader.

    I would like to remind you:

    The Scriptures state God is Spirit, that the Word of God became flesh, and a comforter indwells believers.

    All three are One, yet distinctly separate.

    Humankind have no example to demonstrate this, and the trinity (although seen in action in the Scriptures) is to be taken as fact and not struggled over in order to make sense.

    You are welcome to contact any moderator or better an administrator for further information you may desire.
     
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    Is The Eternal Sonship of Jesus Christ Biblical? Part 2
     
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    the Three Persons in the Trinity/Godhead, are not "separate", but "distinct", as they are all equally God in nature.
     
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    The Father sent his Son as the Messiah, and the Son also agreed fully
     
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    WITH the Father
     
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    Both of the father and with the father
     
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    Bible does state only begotten , full of glory and grace
     
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    Only begotten is WRONG the Greek μονογενής literally means one of a kind or unique. Nothing about any begetting
     
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    Being the one and the same God.
    Being distinctly three Persons.
     
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    John 5:23 says the Father sent Him.
     
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    Good read here
    The Only Begotten God - Credo Magazine
     
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    #114 37818, Jan 18, 2022
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    he was the eternal word of the father
     
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    He is the Word with God the Father, not begotten nor made.
    The false creed does not say that, nor that the Son is Creator.
     
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    τὸν υἱὸν αὐτοῦ τὸν μονογενῆ

    The unique, what?
     
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    Is the concept of the word, Son, relative to anything, in the word of God, without, the Word became flesh and dwelt among us.

    How, flesh?
     
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    Yes it does, but that is NOT the verse that was in question.

    In this case, the word is not Theos, or Abba, but Pater. It is used as any father who is the life giver or progenitor. It follows the thinking of the owner of the field and sent the servants who were killed by the workers, and finally the owner send his own son, whom they also kill.

    The son had no less authority than the owner because the owner is the progenitor, or life giver as well as the son. This is also born out in that passage.
     
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