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KJVO and the Strongs Concordance

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Truther

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The original 1611 edition of the KJV does not have all the same words as one of the many varying post-1900 editions of the KJV. I have actually compared the 1611 edition and with a typical post-1900 edition, and I found over 2,000 differences. Over 150 whole words have been added that were not in the 1611 edition besides all the other changes.

You are uninformed and misinformed about KJV editions.
I can read a 1611 alongside my KJV and get the same thing.

i suppose some folks aren't into ancient English these days.
 

Reformed1689

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I Britain, but not here.

Your modern versions are forced to be 50,000 words different from each other by law.

Times that by about 100.

There is your "pure" word of God.

No wait, you are still redefining your own stuff, that's right.(Strongs).
First, I don't use Strong's so no. Second, what does Copyright have to do with anything in the first place? Nothing. Third, you are brainwashed and not an objective thinker.
 

Reformed1689

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There are 2 differing sources.

Pro KJVO and anti KJVO.

The pro KJVO sources make perfect sense to me and the anti KJVO sources make sense to you.

The pro KJVO insists that there is a pure word of God today.

The anti KJVO teaches there is no pure word of God and redefinitions are still on the table.

I pick the pro.
The idiocy of this post is astounding. I was talking about manuscripts and instead of dealing with that you start talking about pro KJVO and Anti KJVO as if that had ANYTHING to do with what I was talking about.

Further, you said you google KJVO sources, yeah, that's objective. Good grief, go do some REAL study.
 

Salty

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The KJV is only copyrighted in England. A teeny place.

It is free to copy and distribute anywhere else.

The modernists will hunt you down with their lawyers anywhere in the world if you get within 50,000 words of their translations.
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At least you admit that you were wrong - but that was the easiest question!
but your "50,000 words of their translations - is not exactly correct either!
(there are about 780k words in the Bible)

Now how about the other questions.
 

Logos1560

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Nobody retranslated the translators works in 1611.

You fail to prove your opinion to be factually true.

Someone did make changes to the translators' work. A revision committee of twelve made changes to the work of the around 50 translators. Miles Smith and Bishop Thomas Bilson acted as editors and made some changes to the work of the translators. According to documented historical evidence in the 1600's, Church of England prelates whether Bishop Thomas Bilson, who was not a translator, or Archbishop Richard Bancroft or both made some changes to the translators' work. Later editors in 1629 and in 1638 at Cambridge also retranslated or changed some of the translation decisions in the 1611. Later editors in 1743, 1762, 1769 and other years retranslated or changed some of the translation decisions in the 1611 edition.
 

Logos1560

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The modernists will hunt you down with their lawyers anywhere in the world if you get within 50,000 words of their translations.
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You repeat or invent a bogus, false allegation. You fail to prove what you claim to be true. You have been misinformed or deceived as you blindly believe claims that are not true.
 

Salty

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There are 2 differing sources.

Pro KJVO and anti KJVO.

The pro KJVO sources make perfect sense to me and the anti KJVO sources make sense to you.

The pro KJVO insists that there is a pure word of God today.

The anti KJVO teaches there is no pure word of God and redefinitions are still on the table.

I pick the pro.

You do need to understand that we are NOT anti-KJV!

But why are you
Anti- Geneva Bible - which was the first authorized Bible in English, which was the authorized Bible of the Church of England.
Geneva Bible - Wikipedia

also - since you say that the KJV 1611 is the perfect word of God - then you do read the Apocrypha as well.
 
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Reformed1689

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You do need to understand that we are NOT anti-KJV!

But why are you
Anti- Geneva Bible - which was the first authorized Bible in English, which was the authorized Bible of the Church of England.
Geneva Bible - Wikipedia

also - since you say that the KJV 1611 is the perfect word of God - then you do read the Apocrypha as well.
Exactly! I am not anti-KJV. I don't even mind people who are KJV Preferred.

I do have issues with the uneducated position of KJVO PURE WORD etc... The people who usually hold to that have no idea what they are talking about with regard to any historical accuracy.
 
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Salty

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I do have issues with the uneducated position of KJVO PURE WORD etc... The people who usually hold to that have no idea what they are talking about with regard to any historical accuracy.

More than likely - some pastor told them that and they believe it without researching.
 

rockytopva

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Seems like extreme KJVO
I like the definition…

KJVO- Is all I ever read
XKJVO - Extreme KJVO - Please don’t read from anywhere else

I have read my KJV over seven times and have wore out the covers. I find more and more reading from other versions these days and I find myself wondering if their versions are using the correct choice of words for the stated verses. But… I don’t say anything but it leaves me appreciating the KJV more and more.
 

Reformed1689

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More than likely - some pastor told them that and they believe it without researching.
In which case I would send those people to

¶ And the brethren immediatly sent away Paul and Silas by night vnto Berea: who comming thither, went into the Synagogue of the Iewes.

11These were more noble then those in Thessalonica, in that they receiued the word with all readinesse of minde, and searched the Scriptures dayly, whether those things were so.
 

Logos1560

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I can read a 1611 alongside my KJV and get the same thing.

You could read a 1611 edition, but you may have your eyes closed to seeing the differences. The actual differences are there if your eyes are open to seeing them.
 

Truther

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First, I don't use Strong's so no. Second, what does Copyright have to do with anything in the first place? Nothing. Third, you are brainwashed and not an objective thinker.
Copyright translations forbid about 50,000 words from their competitors to avoid infringement.

If you and I want to make our own modern "word of God", we must change the words to satisfy the copyright law.

Wanna try?
 
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