Rebel not.

[Cathode]

Where is the scriptural warrant for such a self-proclamation?

Jesus made Peter head of the Church to Peter first person singular ( binding and loosing ), then later to the rest of the Apostles.

As for the lesser of two evils.

“It is better that one man should die, than the whole nation perish”

High Priests prophecy, not his own words.

 

[JesusFan]

No. It simply means he is the visible head of the Church, whilst Christ is the invisible head of the Church.

the Bible NEVER mentions that there is any visible head over the church, as that head is Lord Jesus period

 

[Cathode]

the Bible NEVER mentions that there is any visible head over the church, as that head is Lord Jesus period

Yes it does, but you don’t understand the Bible.

 

[JesusFan]

Yes it does, but you don’t understand the Bible.

The understand it as the Holy Spirit revealed it to me, n ot as Rome has to you

 

[Blank]

Jesus made Peter head of the Church to Peter first person singular ( binding and loosing ), then later to the rest of the Apostles.

As for the lesser of two evils.

“It is better that one man should die, than the whole nation perish”

High Priests prophecy, not his own words.

If Peter was made 'head of the Church (as you say), why didn't Paul follow Peter's example rather than rebuke Peter?

Galatians 2:11-15 (KJV) But when Peter was come to Antioch, I withstood him to the face, because he was to be blamed. For before that certain came from James, he did eat with the Gentiles: but when they were come, he withdrew and separated himself, fearing them which were of the circumcision. And the other Jews dissembled likewise with him; insomuch that Barnabas also was carried away with their dissimulation. But when I saw that they walked not uprightly according to the truth of the gospel, I said unto Peter before them all, If thou, being a Jew, livest after the manner of Gentiles, and not as do the Jews, why compellest thou the Gentiles to live as do the Jews? We who are Jews by nature, and not sinners of the Gentiles,

Wait, The pope isn't Jewish is he?

 

[JesusFan]

If Peter was made 'head of the Church (as you say), why didn't Paul follow Peter's example rather than rebuke Peter?

Galatians 2:11-15 (KJV) But when Peter was come to Antioch, I withstood him to the face, because he was to be blamed. For before that certain came from James, he did eat with the Gentiles: but when they were come, he withdrew and separated himself, fearing them which were of the circumcision. And the other Jews dissembled likewise with him; insomuch that Barnabas also was carried away with their dissimulation. But when I saw that they walked not uprightly according to the truth of the gospel, I said unto Peter before them all, If thou, being a Jew, livest after the manner of Gentiles, and not as do the Jews, why compellest thou the Gentiles to live as do the Jews? We who are Jews by nature, and not sinners of the Gentiles,

Wait, The pope isn't Jewish is he?

Peter apostle to Jews, Paul to the gentiles, and James to "mother church", so they had 3 "popes" back then?

 

[Blank]

Peter apostle to Jews, Paul to the gentiles, and James to "mother church", so they had 3 "popes" back then?

No. I was being facetious

 

[JesusFan]

No. I was being facetious

as was I

 

[Blank]

as was I

There were no popes back then.

 

[JesusFan]

There were no popes back then.

agreed, yet our resident Catholic friends claims peter was first one, so why not Paul and James back then also?

 

[Blank]

agreed, yet our resident Catholic friends claims peter was first one, so why not Paul and James back then also?

Good point. So Paul is the Pope to the Gentiles and Peter to the Jews, I wonder where where James fits in?

 

[Oseas3]

Where is the scriptural warrant for such a self-proclamation?

There isn't scriptural warrant for such a self-proclamation. When the Devil used for such a self-proclamation before JESUS, our Lord said: " Get thee behind me, Satan: thou art an offence unto me: for thou savourest not the things that be of GOD, but those that be of MEN".-Matthew 16:22-23. This was and is what must be said to the Devil, to the demons.

JESUS made it clear to His disciples: "It is enough for the disciple that he be as His masterMatthew 10:25

 

[Oseas3]

Jesus made Peter head of the Church to Peter first person singular ( binding and loosing ), then later to the rest of the Apostles.

The Word of GOD says by the book of Revelation that SATAN Himself made the NAME of Peter as head of his demonic body, the head of his Church, the Great Prostitute, the Roman Catholic Church.

Revelation 17:1-7

1 And there came one of the seven angels which had the seven vials, and talked with me, saying unto me, Come hither; I will shew unto thee the Judgment of the Great Whore that sitteth upon many waters: (peoples, and nations, and multitudes of all tongues, in Europe, and Asia, Africa, Oceania(Austrália &Other cowntries), NORTH AMERICA, Central America and SOUTH America.Her roots:->Revelation 13:2)

2 With whom the kings of the earth have committed fornication, and the inhabitants of the earth(followers of the Great Prostitute) have been made drunk with the wine of her fornication. (It is what we have seen in this site, you have drunk of her fornication)

3 So the angel carried me away in the spirit into the wilderness: and I saw a woman(THE ROMAN CATHOLIC CHURCH, the body of Devil, a Great Prostitute) sit upon a scarlet coloured Beast(the Papacy), full of names of blasphemy(DEMONIC NAMES) having seven heads and ten horns. (7 heads? they are described above, include the roots of the Great Prostitute, the body of Devil)

4 And the woman (the Great Prostitute-The Roman Catholic Church )was arrayed in purple and scarlet colour, and decked with gold and precious stones and pearls, having a golden cup in her hand full of abominations and filthiness of her fornication:

5 And upon her forehead was a name written, Mystery, Babylon The Great, The Mother Of Harlots And Abominations Of The Earth.

6 And I saw the woman drunken with the blood of the saints, and with the blood of the martyrs of Jesus: and when I saw her, I wondered with great admiration. (But now, even now, and from now on, will be cast into the hell's fire-Revelation 19:19-21, take a look)

7 And the angel said unto me, Wherefore didst thou marvel? I will tell thee the mystery of the woman, and of the Beast that carrieth her, which hath the 7 heads and ten horns.->Revelation 13:1, his roots-verse 2, the main partner of the red dragon, the own Satan-Re.12:3-4&9 combined with Revelation 13:2, take a look).

GET READY

 

[Oseas3]

According to the Pope Linus - Wikipedia
... (only) from the late 2nd or early 3rd century the(SATANIC) convention began of regarding Peter as the first pope.[3]

 

[Silverhair]

@Cathode has been trying to preach a different gospel when he promotes the RCC view of salvation.

The RCC has a gospel of works which as Paul stated in Galatians is a different gospel, one that will not save anyone. The RCC is no better than all the other false religions out there.

He has swallowed the false teaching of that organization and from his responses to the biblical texts that have been given him we can see that he is blinded to the truth.

 

[Cathode]

@Cathode has been trying to preach a different gospel when he promotes the RCC view of salvation.

The RCC has a gospel of works which as Paul stated in Galatians is a different gospel, one that will not save anyone. The RCC is no better than all the other false religions out there.

He has swallowed the false teaching of that organization and from his responses to the biblical texts that have been given him we can see that he is blinded to the truth.

No, you are suffering theological and historical aphasia or amnesia.

One of the things that past heresies and schisms do is knock the true memories out of the mind of the following generations.

Christianity for you began with Martin Luther, when the Bible fell directly from the sky in the 1500s, before that you have no memory.
All you know before the terrible accident was the speculations of other people in the ward who also have aphasia and amnesia from the same terrible accident. Your whole world has been the ward and you only trust what the other patients have unreliably been telling you.

Try as family visitors might, they cannot make you remember. They spend hours by your bed but you don’t remember their faces. Their tears and pleadings are the tears and pleadings of strangers and have no effect on you.

You don’t even remember the face of your mother, Mother Church is a total stranger.

Your best friend who you don’t remember visits and tells you that Luther the bus driver, was a mentally ill drunkard and drove you all off a bridge. You don’t believe him, everyone in the ward still think Luther is a good guy, they won’t hear a word against him.

You and all the other patients in the ward all try to reconstruct Christianity from private opinions of Scripture. Church is something humans found on their own speculations of scripture you think, not something Christ founded with Apostolic Government and leadership, you just don’t remember and can’t accept it when told.

 

[Cathode]

If Peter was made 'head of the Church (as you say), why didn't Paul follow Peter's example rather than rebuke Peter?

Galatians 2:11-15 (KJV) But when Peter was come to Antioch, I withstood him to the face, because he was to be blamed. For before that certain came from James, he did eat with the Gentiles: but when they were come, he withdrew and separated himself, fearing them which were of the circumcision. And the other Jews dissembled likewise with him; insomuch that Barnabas also was carried away with their dissimulation. But when I saw that they walked not uprightly according to the truth of the gospel, I said unto Peter before them all, If thou, being a Jew, livest after the manner of Gentiles, and not as do the Jews, why compellest thou the Gentiles to live as do the Jews? We who are Jews by nature, and not sinners of the Gentiles,

Wait, The pope isn't Jewish is he?

Paul was holding Peter to Peters teaching, that God showed no partiality between Jews and Gentiles.

Peters teaching wasn’t wrong, his behaviour was wrong.

 

[Silverhair]

No, you are suffering theological and historical aphasia or amnesia.

One of the things that past heresies and schisms do is knock the true memories out of the mind of the following generations.

Christianity for you began with Martin Luther, when the Bible fell directly from the sky in the 1500s, before that you have no memory.
All you know before the terrible accident was the speculations of other people in the ward who also have aphasia and amnesia from the same terrible accident. Your whole world has been the ward and you only trust what the other patients have unreliably been telling you.

Try as family visitors might, they cannot make you remember. They spend hours by your bed but you don’t remember their faces. Their tears and pleadings are the tears and pleadings of strangers and have no effect on you.

You don’t even remember the face of your mother, Mother Church is a total stranger.

Your best friend who you don’t remember visits and tells you that Luther the bus driver, was a mentally ill drunkard and drove you all off a bridge. You don’t believe him, everyone in the ward still think Luther is a good guy, they won’t hear a word against him.

You and all the other patients in the ward all try to reconstruct Christianity from private opinions of Scripture. Church is something humans found on their own speculations of scripture you think, not something Christ founded with Apostolic Government and leadership, you just don’t remember and can’t accept it when told.

You are funny. The RCC has preached a different gospel from the start. The bible you claim to follow has condemned you. The RCC version of salvation is just an update on that taught by the Pharisees.

Gal 1:8 But even if we, or an angel from heaven, should preach to you a gospel contrary to what we have preached to you, he is to be accursed!

1Co 15:3 For I delivered to you as of first importance what I also received, that Christ died for our sins according to the Scriptures,
1Co 15:4 and that He was buried, and that He was raised on the third day according to the Scriptures,

You write stories but offer nothing to support your false views except that we should trust the RCC when it tells us that the RCC tells us the truth. The RCC history proves that that organization has more in line with the adversary than with Christ.

 

[Silverhair]

Paul was holding Peter to Peters teaching, that God showed no partiality between Jews and Gentiles.

Peters teaching wasn’t wrong, his behaviour was wrong.

Actually by Peter's actions he was calling into question what he had been teaching, that Christ was the only way.

Did you never hear the expression, actions speak loader than words?

Gal 2:13 The rest of the Jews joined him in hypocrisy, with the result that even Barnabas was carried away by their hypocrisy.
Gal 2:14 But when I saw that they were not straightforward about the truth of the gospel, I said to Cephas in the presence of all, "If you, being a Jew, live like the Gentiles and not like the Jews, how is it that you compel the Gentiles to live like Jews?

By living like the Jews they were falling back under the law. The law which does not save.

Once again the bible shows the error of your views.

 

[Cathode]

You are funny. The RCC has preached a different gospel from the start. The bible you claim to follow has condemned you. The RCC version of salvation is just an update on that taught by the Pharisees.

Different Gospel apart from the Gospel of your opinion. Your opinion isn’t Gospel, don’t confuse the two.

Gal 1:8 But even if we, or an angel from heaven, should preach to you a gospel contrary to what we have preached to you, he is to be accursed!
You write stories but offer nothing to support your false views except that we should trust the RCC when it tells us that the RCC tells us the truth. The RCC history proves that that organization has more in line with the adversary than with Christ.

I write stories so that you understand the situation correctly.

You have suffered a terrible accident, you have theological aphasia and historical amnesia, whether it’s terminal is yet to be determined.
I think with time and grace you can heal from it.

The words of Scripture you don’t understand, your memory before Luther is shot.

Heresy and schism is generational head trauma, the wrong people have filled in the blanks for you and you believed it.

The Gospel preached by The One, Holy, Catholic and Apostolic Church is the true Gospel.

Not the Scripture you read and misinterpreted according to your human opinion.

There is only One Church Jesus founded, the Catholic Church, the Real Church the Mother of the Bible.