Should a pastor be permitted to have a beer once in while?

[TCassidy]

You said and I quote: "Just wait till he starts telling you about how the demons have possessed just about every person he's ever come in contact with and the insane level of physical manifestations of these demons."

Please stop. I never said any such thing. Shame on you! The Lord rebuke you!

 

[matt wade]

You said and I quote: "Just wait till he starts telling you about how the demons have possessed just about every person he's ever come in contact with and the insane level of physical manifestations of these demons."

I challenged you to quote me. You did not. You cannot because I never made that statement. Furthermore I never held to that position. So, my fellow poster you need to say you're sorry for bearing false witness against a fellow believer. But if you can't find the humility to apologize I will let you go your way and put you on ignore.

You made a direct attack upon me at least twice even though the board rules state clearly that you should not make personal attacks upon other members. You referred to me as a 'petulant child' in addition to the false charge you made as I quoted above. I have not called names nor made insulting remarks towards you nor anyone else on this thread; I merely stated my position in a matter-of-fact manner but you obviously can't handle it.

It's your choice, friend.

You have a reading comprehension problem, plain and simple. Are you sure you aren't drunk?

 

[Calypsis4]

I see what happened: I saw this...

Quote: (from TCassidy)
And you need to stop being a patronizing, petulant child.

You think this is bad? Just wait till he starts telling you about how the demons have possessed just about every person he's ever come in contact with and the insane level of physical manifestations of these demons.

After seeing TCassidy's name above it I mentally transferred responsibility for the statement to him when it was in fact, Matt Wade who made the false charge. Therefore I apologize to TCassidy and I am sorry for the mistake. It is Matt Wade who needs to apologize. He is the one guilty of making the false charge against me.

But TCassidy, that does not negate your responsibility for breaking board rules in making a personal attack and referring to me as 'a petulant child'. You still need to say you are sorry for that.

I have apologized...now it is your turn.

 

[matt wade]

I see what happened: I saw this...

Quote: (from TCassidy)
And you need to stop being a patronizing, petulant child.

You think this is bad? Just wait till he starts telling you about how the demons have possessed just about every person he's ever come in contact with and the insane level of physical manifestations of these demons.

After seeing TCassidy's name above it I mentally transferred responsibility for the statement to him when it was in fact, Matt Wade who made the false charge. Therefore I apologize to TCassidy and I am sorry for the mistake. It is Matt Wade who needs to apologize. He is the one guilty of making the false charge against me.

But TCassidy, that does not negate your responsibility for breaking board rules in making a personal attack and referring to me as 'a petulant child'. You still need to say you are sorry for that.

I have apologized...now it is your turn.

Matt Wade has already explained his use of exaggeration to make a point.

 

[Calypsis4]

Matt Wade has already explained his use of exaggeration to make a point.

Nope. Apologize or you are going to join the ranks of the non-existent in my ignore can. I wouldn't do this but your whole attitude in this matter has been rotten/awful. You clearly can't tolerate anyone who differs with your point of view no matter how it is stated.

 

[matt wade]

Nope. Apologize or you are going to join the ranks of the non-existent in my ignore can. I wouldn't do this but your whole attitude in this matter has been rotten/awful. You clearly can't tolerate anyone who differs with your point of view no matter how it is stated.

I couldn't care less what you do over there.

 

[Rolfe]

Someone needs a Bier...

 

[TCassidy]

Therefore I apologize to TCassidy and I am sorry for the mistake. It is Matt Wade who needs to apologize. He is the one guilty of making the false charge against me.

Apology accepted.

But TCassidy, that does not negate your responsibility for breaking board rules in making a personal attack and referring to me as 'a petulant child'.

There is an old saying in Tort Law: "The truth is the perfect defense." When you act like a petulant child expect us to take notice.

 

[Calypsis4]

I couldn't care less what you do over there.

That's just what I expected. You haven't an ounce of humility in this matter. Enjoy yourself in the can....over there.

For the other readers:
There are consequences in life for making flippant remarks like that. For one, losing the respect of those who are afflicted by such words & the respect of others who may be observing.

And be ye kind one to another, tenderhearted, forgiving one another, even as God for Christ's sake hath forgiven you. Ephesians 4:32

 

[TCassidy]

Jag visste aldrig en dålig hund.

I never did either. I was just reminiscing with a friend about lost friends from yesteryear. My Irish Setter Teddy was the topic of discussion. We both agreed he was the best dog ever, and that is out of over a dozen throughout the past 70 years.

 

[Zaac]

And that is another seven page thread about alcohol quota met. *laugh*

Next month's topic: If the Three Wise Men Drank Wine, Would they Still Be Wise?

And in today's world, with all the TRANSITIONING taking place, would they even still be MEN?EekBiggrin

 

[Calypsis4]

Apology accepted.There is an old saying in Tort Law: "The truth is the perfect defense." When you act like a petulant child expect us to take notice.

You arbitrarily accused me of being a 'petulant child' not because I insulted you nor because I made a personal attack upon you BUT BECAUSE I DIFFER WITH YOUR POSITION on partaking of intoxicating beverages. Therefore your statement was an unwarranted attack in violation of board rules.

You will now join your equally guilty friend in the ignore region. If you should show some humility in the matter and decide to apologize as the Lord requires of you then I will reverse this action. Bye.

 

[TCassidy]

There are consequences in life for making flippant remarks like that. For one, losing the respect of others who are afflicted by such words & the respect of others who may be observing.

Yes. Exactly. That is why you have no credibility at all on this forum.

 

[annsni]

You said and I quote: "Just wait till he starts telling you about how the demons have possessed just about every person he's ever come in contact with and the insane level of physical manifestations of these demons."

I challenged you to quote me. You did not. You cannot because I never made that statement. Furthermore I never held to that position. So, my fellow poster you need to say you're sorry for bearing false witness against a fellow believer. But if you can't find the humility to apologize I will let you go your way and put you on ignore.

You made a direct attack upon me at least twice even though the board rules state clearly that you should not make personal attacks upon other members. You referred to me as a 'petulant child' in addition to the false charge you made as I quoted above. I have not called names nor made insulting remarks towards you nor anyone else on this thread; I merely stated my position in a matter-of-fact manner but you obviously can't handle it.

It's your choice, friend.

False charges.

It was Matt Wade who you are quoting above.

Slow on the uptake with this new system. I see this was dealt with.

 

[Zaac]

I do not drink nor do I think that there is anything wrong with it. Our leaders in our church have asked the staff to not drink due to the fact that we have many in the church who have struggled with alcohol abuse and so we are doing it out of respect for them. I still cook with it (which is fine) and have no problem if our church reversed it's position to partake here and there like I used to (maybe a drink every week to every few weeks or even going months without it).

I do not look at one verse taken out of context to decide that drinking fermented wine is forbidden. God tells us clearly in His Word that He gives us wine to gladden the heart - yet we are to use it carefully. I compare Scripture's teaching on alcohol to it's teachings on sex. It is a good thing that God has given us to use properly and in order. The fact that Jesus would have partaken tells me a lot.

Where does Scripture say that He "partook"?

He was accused of being a drunk and it's kind of hard to be accused of being a drunk when all you drink is grape juice (and remember that He was VERY closely watched by those accusing him so they would know

You're making a very large assumption. And obviously they DIDN'T know and that's why they accused Him of doing something He had not done.

- plus Jesus followed the Jewish law which included the use of wine in ceremonies, not to mention the cultural use of wine which even had children partaking).

This really doesn't mean much when you look at how Jesus turned the Jewish law and culture upside down.

 

[Calypsis4]

And in today's world, with all the TRANSITIONING taking place, would they even still be MEN?EekBiggrin

Proverbs 26:18-19 ¶ As a mad man who casteth firebrands, arrows, and death, So is the man that deceiveth his neighbour, and saith, Am not I in sport?

firebrands....yeah.

 

[TCassidy]

You arbitrarily accused me of being a 'petulant child' not because I insulted you nor because I made a personal attack upon you BUT BECAUSE I DIFFER WITH YOUR POSITION . . .

There you go again. I called you a petulant child because of your statement which I quoted and ONLY because of that statement. I even explained it to you in a subsequent post.

Here it is again in case your memory is still as bad as it was over the "demon" quotes:

Calypsis4 said: ↑
You need to settle down, fella.

And you need to stop being a patronizing, petulant child.

See post #88 for proof of the above.

And here is the first time I explained it to you:

Please do not lie about what I said. My statement to you was in response to

You need to settle down, fella.

and nothing else. Shame on you! The Lord rebuke you!

See Post #95.

 

[Rolfe]

You will now join your equally guilty friend in the ignore region. If you should show some humility in the matter and decide to apologize as the Lord requires of you then I will reverse this action. Bye.

That was a rather arrogant statement. Ironic.

 

[Calypsis4]

Hmm, did I just hear some crowing in the distance?

 

[TCassidy]

That was a rather arrogant statement. Ironic.

It is much easier for him to put us on "Ignore" than to deal with his statements. He was called out concerning those statements and did what so many do. He turned tail and ran.

As my dad used to say, "If you can't run with the big dogs you better stay on the porch." In Calypsis4's case it seems he has retreated under the porch.