Six Bombshell Revelations from Fauci's Emails

[JonC]

@Reformed1689 and @Reynolds ,

To highlight what I am saying (I do not want my point being lost in my words):

You both have pointed out the chances of getting COVID and having serious consequences as being small. I agree.

But what you are not dealing with is the chances of having serious adverse effects of any vacvine is .000015, or .0015%, which is much smaller than one's chances of serious COVID complications.

Vaccines do have dangers (this is a given). The question is twofold - 1. Do they help to prevent or minimize the disease (with COVID-19, the answer is yes) and 2. Do the potential dangers of a vaccine outweigh the potential effects of the disease.

The latter is the question to ask, and based on the data you have provided, and the fact serious adverse reactions to vaccines occur .0015 (actually between .001 and .002) percent of the time the answer seems to indicate the benefits - in general to a population - outweigh the risks.

Individually this may not be the case, but vaccines are not developed for one person.

 

[Reformed1689]

@Reformed1689 and @Reynolds ,

To highlight what I am saying (I do not want my point being lost in my words):

You both have pointed out the chances of getting COVID and having serious consequences as being small. I agree.

But what you are not dealing with is the chances of having serious adverse effects of any vacvine is .000015, or .0015%, which is much smaller than one's chances of serious COVID complications.

Vaccines do have dangers (this is a given). The question is twofold - 1. Do they help to prevent or minimize the disease (with COVID-19, the answer is yes) and 2. Do the potential dangers of a vaccine outweigh the potential effects of the disease.

The latter is the question to ask, and based on the data you have provided, and the fact serious adverse reactions to vaccines occur .0015 (actually between .001 and .002) percent of the time the answer seems to indicate the benefits - in general to a population - outweigh the risks.

Individually this may not be the case, but vaccines are not developed for one person.

Why is that the question? I have said, if you are worried about Covid get vaccinated. Me personally? I am not because I don't need it.

 

[Gold Dragon]

We all know vaccines have risks. But do you have even one case where a vaccine is linked to autism?

More importantly, since we are dealing with COVID vaccines, do you have even one example of a mRNA vacvine having severe consequences to a child?

No, you do not. They are NOT approved for children. They are a typeof vaccine which thus far have never been used on children.

An FYI that the Pfizer vaccine received emergency approval for aged 12 and up by the FDA on May 10, 2021 and people have been vaccinating their children for a while now in the US.

GRADE: Pfizer-BioNTech COVID-19 Vaccine Age 12-15 Years | CDC

The safety study for this age group was completed back in March.

Pfizer-BioNTech Announce Positive Topline Results of Pivotal COVID-19 Vaccine Study in Adolescents | pfpfizeruscom

And there are currently safety clinical trials being done on children as young as 6 months old. All the vaccines are running these safety trials for younger patients right now. This is done in stages of course as each stage shows how safe the vaccines are for progressively younger children which they have been so far which we need to thank God for.

FDA OKs Pfizer COVID-19 Vaccine For 12-15 Age Group

If you listen to disinformation networks and not the actual scientific data you will be freaked out about clinical trials on children even though there is no scientific reason to be.

 

[Gold Dragon]

Here is a nice list of 27 studies all done to investigate vaccines and autism, all showing the same thing, there is no link. Again they reiterate that Andrew Wakefield's one fraudulent study was the single source of this massive disinformation network that now causes so much harm to people. It is unfortunate though that many of the people who believe this disinformation are not people who are interested in evidence.

https://www.immunize.org/catg.d/p4026.pdf

 

[JonC]

Why is that the question? I have said, if you are worried about Covid get vaccinated. Me personally? I am not because I don't need it.

It is the question because we are to be good stewards. That is not to take away choice - if you believe the benefits of the vaccine outweighs the risks in a society then that is the direction a society should go.

I already said it may be different at an individual level.

 

[JonC]

@Reformed1689,

My main point here is how we are handling the virus and the vaccine.

You rightly point out that COVID-19 has a death rate of 2% and question that a vaccine is needed.

But at the same time you question vaccines for having serious adverse reactions .0015% of the time.

Do you at least see why this is inconsistent?

 

[Reynolds]

We all know vaccines have risks. But do you have even one case where a vaccine is linked to autism?

More importantly, since we are dealing with COVID vaccines, do you have even one example of a mRNA vacvine having severe consequences to a child?

No, you do not. They are NOT approved for children. They are a typeof vaccine which thus far have never been used on children.

That is why I refer to conspiracy. There is a huge jump made in the claims.

AND there are huge inconsistencies in your argument here. You like to talk percentages until it is not in your favor.

What percent of children developed autism after taking a vaccine? (0%). What percent leveloped severe issues? What percent of children have developed any negative symptoms after taking a mRNA vaccine? (0%).

You and @Reformed1689 argue numbers, that the chances of COVID being fatal is exaggerated- chances are we will be fine. We'll, chances are that the vaccine is beneficial without ladting negative effects as well.

I understand your concerns, but you are not being consistent.

There are huge numbers of autism onset immediately post vaccine. Vaccine can't be proven as the cause because govt won't do the studies. Look at the strep increase of autism in Africa. What else increased at the exact same time?

Covid vaccine injury is real. My neighbors 30 year old son died of blood clots 12 days after vaccine. Kid healthy as a horse prior to that. Vaccine cause the blood clots? Most likely.

 

[Reynolds]

I don't trust Faucci....but you go right ahead. Each of us have to decide who to trust (good luck with your choice...but perhaps you should consider Faucci's track record).

That's the point. The govt is feeding is poles and piles of crap. You don't trust Faucci, but you trust the other govt minions.

 

[Reynolds]

@Reformed1689 and @Reynolds ,

To highlight what I am saying (I do not want my point being lost in my words):

You both have pointed out the chances of getting COVID and having serious consequences as being small. I agree.

But what you are not dealing with is the chances of having serious adverse effects of any vacvine is .000015, or .0015%, which is much smaller than one's chances of serious COVID complications.

Vaccines do have dangers (this is a given). The question is twofold - 1. Do they help to prevent or minimize the disease (with COVID-19, the answer is yes) and 2. Do the potential dangers of a vaccine outweigh the potential effects of the disease.

The latter is the question to ask, and based on the data you have provided, and the fact serious adverse reactions to vaccines occur .0015 (actually between .001 and .002) percent of the time the answer seems to indicate the benefits - in general to a population - outweigh the risks.

Individually this may not be the case, but vaccines are not developed for one person.

You are missing my point. Safety trials have been bypassed. The numbers you quote, even if they are accurate, only deal with short term injury. You have no clue what long term injury rate is. It will be somewhere between 0 and 100%. No one knows which it will be closer to.
I am not saying Covid vax is dangerous. I am saying a lot of issues have not been sufficiently addressed. No long term data is available. All of you who want to be the guinea pig test group, have at it. Just quit trying by mandate draw me into your test group.

 

[Wingman68]

 

[Wingman68]

The current ‘vaccine’, which it isn’t, alters the way your immune system works, & you can’t go back. I have seen a reference to suramin being an antidote for the vax, & even autism, but I’ve done no research on that, just throwing it out there.

 

[Reynolds]

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The Kool aid drinkers will say that is pure coincidence.

 

[JonC]

There are huge numbers of autism onset immediately post vaccine. Vaccine can't be proven as the cause because govt won't do the studies. Look at the strep increase of autism in Africa. What else increased at the exact same time?

Covid vaccine injury is real. My neighbors 30 year old son died of blood clots 12 days after vaccine. Kid healthy as a horse prior to that. Vaccine cause the blood clots? Most likely.

COVID is also real. I know several who have died of COVID.

The increase of autism coincides with many changes, to include an increase in industry, environmental issues, ect. More importantly autism in Africa does not have a substantial history of documentation (some theorize asthma is rare in third world countries because of an increased immune system linked to a lack of antibacterial measures.....but the truth is we cannot say as the presence or absence of asthma has not been documented (i.e., kids could have been dying of asthma without the cause being identified).

How many received either mRNA vacvine in the US and experienced blood clots?

A family friend in her early 20's developed blood clots and had a stroke after contracting COVID.

 

[Gold Dragon]

There are huge numbers of autism onset immediately post vaccine. Vaccine can't be proven as the cause because govt won't do the studies.

This is a blatant lie when I’ve just shown you 27 studies on this. Which government are you talking about. This list includes studies in the US, Denmark, Japan, Canada and Finland.

https://www.immunize.org/catg.d/p4026.pdf

Covid vaccine injury is real. My neighbors 30 year old son died of blood clots 12 days after vaccine. Kid healthy as a horse prior to that. Vaccine cause the blood clots? Most likely.

A serious event like this would have been reported to VAERS which anyone including you can submit a report to. Which state are you in and when did this occur? I can search VAERS for this if it really occurred. Someone would have investigated it for validity and causality.

 

[Gold Dragon]

That's the point. The govt is feeding is poles and piles of crap. You don't trust Faucci, but you trust the other govt minions.

This is the goal of the smear campaign on Fauci who has been above reproach in his handling of Covid19.

It is to sow distrust against scientists, doctors and medical people amongst those in the grips of the disinformation networks who may be starting to realize they have been lied to for so long so those controlling the disinformation can maintain their monopoly of information control on their sheep. The effectiveness of the vaccine is a threat to their control.

Fortunately, Fauci has always been true to the scientific evidence rather than politics and it is easy to show that the baseless political attacks against him are just that.

 

[Gold Dragon]

The Kool aid drinkers will say that is pure coincidence.

The increase in autism stats over the years is purely a result in the change in how autism is defined and diagnosed.

The evolution of ‘autism’ as a diagnosis, explained

In 1980 the DSM III first had autism as a separate diagnosis with actual diagnostic criteria.

In 1987 the DSM III expanded its criteria to include milder forms.

In 1994 and 2000 the DSM IV included the idea of a spectrum and Aspegers and more expanded definitions.

In 2013, the DSM5 replaced the idea of different diagnoses like aspergers for milder forms into a continuous spectrum.

All this was done not because there were more people with autism but because we were studying the condition more closely and realizing that our definitions were inadequate to describe what we were seeing and that milder forms that have always been around undiagnosed could still benefit from treatment.

 

[Reynolds]

This is a blatant lie when I’ve just shown you 27 studies on this. Which government are you talking about. This list includes studies in the US, Denmark, Japan, Canada and Finland.

https://www.immunize.org/catg.d/p4026.pdf



A serious event like this would have been reported to VAERS which anyone including you can submit a report to. Which state are you in and when did this occur? I can search VAERS for this if it really occurred. Someone would have investigated it for validity and causality.

They all lie. Big pharma.
Denver Co. I don't know whether it's reported or not. He died of blood clots. Family says it's vaccine caused. Doctors say it's blood clots. We have already dealt with how underreported VAERS is.

 

[Reynolds]

This is the goal of the smear campaign on Fauci who has been above reproach in his handling of Covid19.

It is to sow distrust against scientists, doctors and medical people amongst those in the grips of the disinformation networks who may be starting to realize they have been lied to for so long so those controlling the disinformation can maintain their monopoly of information control on their sheep. The effectiveness of the vaccine is a threat to their control.

Fortunately, Fauci has always been true to the scientific evidence rather than politics and it is easy to show that the baseless political attacks against him are just that.

Your praise of Faucci borders on foolishness. If he is so reputable:
1 masks don't work.
2. Asymptomatic cant spread the disease.

 

[Reynolds]

COVID is also real. I know several who have died of COVID.

The increase of autism coincides with many changes, to include an increase in industry, environmental issues, ect. More importantly autism in Africa does not have a substantial history of documentation (some theorize asthma is rare in third world countries because of an increased immune system linked to a lack of antibacterial measures.....but the truth is we cannot say as the presence or absence of asthma has not been documented (i.e., kids could have been dying of asthma without the cause being identified).

How many received either mRNA vacvine in the US and experienced blood clots?

A family friend in her early 20's developed blood clots and had a stroke after contracting COVID.

Don't know how many. Enough to pull one of the vaccines for a few weeks.

 

[percho]

We agree on one thing. Covid 19 is real;

Where did it originate?