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What Side Of The Fence Are You?

Which doctrine do you believe?

  • Synergism

    Votes: 26 35.6%
  • Monergism

    Votes: 47 64.4%

  • Total voters
    73
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kyredneck

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Actually, I'm not sure that is a prefect representation of your position considering that activity, though effectually brought about, is still required for salvation.

God determines everyone's destiny, but the question is what does he base that determination on? Is it based upon the secret counsel of His divine will or upon our free response to his appeal to be reconciled?

What's the matter Skandy, that one too revealing for you?

It's like I said:

......I'm now convinced that it could never be worded in such a way that pleases everyone.....
 

kyredneck

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What about this one?:

It's each individual's choice whether they go to heaven or hell.

A. True

B. False
 

olegig

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How about:

A: Man is not able to respond to the word of God and the Holy Spirit without being the subject of unconditional election, irresistible grace, and regeneration.

B: Man does have the free will to respond to the word of God and the Holy Spirit without being the subject of unconditional election, irresistible grace, and regeneration.
 

kyredneck

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Revealing? What do you suspect this revealed that I wouldn't like? I thought it was not fair to your views and I suspect some Calvinists wouldn't like that wording.

I never had a problem with it at all.

How about this one?:

Each individual's eternal destiny is their respnsibility.

A. True

B. False
 

kyredneck

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How about:

A: Man is not able to respond to the word of God and the Holy Spirit without being the subject of unconditional election, irresistible grace, and regeneration.

B: Man does have the free will to respond to the word of God and the Holy Spirit without being the subject of unconditional election, irresistible grace, and regeneration.

No. I'd want ANY inference to C/A to be absent.
 

olegig

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What about this one?:

It's each individual's choice whether they go to heaven or hell.
A. True
B. False

Considering the opposite, you might wish to rethink that one because I think you would pick B. above making A. below also your choice.

It's God choice whether they go to heaven or hell.
A. True
B. False

(Its kind of one of those cake and eat it too things.)
 

olegig

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No. I'd want ANY inference to C/A to be absent.

Ok, we can leave only the Biblical terms in and take the others out.

A: Man is not able to respond to the word of God and the Holy Spirit without being the subject of election, grace, and regeneration.

B: Man does have the free will to respond to the word of God and the Holy Spirit without being the subject of election, grace, and regeneration.
 

Skandelon

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What about this one?:

It's each individual's choice whether they go to heaven or hell.

A. True

B. False

Don't even Calvinists believe they have a choice in the matter? It's a choice determined by the greatest desire which is effectually brought about through regeneration, but still there is a "choice." Just looking out for you guys. ;)
 

Skandelon

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Ok, we can leave only the Biblical terms in and take the others out.

A: Man is not able to respond to the word of God and the Holy Spirit without being the subject of election, grace, and regeneration.

B: Man does have the free will to respond to the word of God and the Holy Spirit without being the subject of election, grace, and regeneration.

I hate to be the nit-picker, but even I believe man is not able to respond to the word of God and the Holy Spirit without being the subject of election and grace. Keep trying. :saint:

How about:

1. God has chosen to save a particular number of individuals who will certainly be saved and all others will be condemned.

2. God has provided a way for all to be saved and some will freely go that way while others will not.
 

webdog

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What about this one?:

It's each individual's choice whether they go to heaven or hell.

A. True

B. False
Wow...your ignorance is becoming something of legend. Keep on posting the strawmen...you might hit on one that is true once.
 

webdog

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And this is not the poll you started. At the very least you should confine your typical snide knee-jerk quips to the correct thread.
Oh King of the Quite Obvious...I'm quite aware I did not start this thread. Like I said, please follow along. The quips are doing just fine right here, as this is where we are discussing "denseness" according to you.
 

olegig

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I hate to be the nit-picker, but even I believe man is not able to respond to the word of God and the Holy Spirit without being the subject of election and grace. Keep trying. :saint:
I see your point. In my haste to appease ky, I overlooked that.

How about:
A. Before the foundation of the world God predetermined what He would do with those who are placed in Christ.

B. Before the foundation of the world God predetermined who would be placed in Christ.

How about:

1. God has chosen to save a particular number of individuals who will certainly be saved and all others will be condemned.

2. God has provided a way for all to be saved and some will freely go that way while others will not.
Not bad, but a bit revealing........
 

kyredneck

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Considering the opposite, you might wish to rethink that one because I think you would pick B. above making A. below also your choice.

It's God choice whether they go to heaven or hell.
A. True
B. False

(Its kind of one of those cake and eat it too things.)

That's better (bear in mind I'm somewhat playing the devil's advocate, I considered the OP to be void of C/A). If we DID come up with a generally accepted wording of the options, a neutral party, someone well liked (like Amy G. ?) should be recruited to submit the thread, IMO.

Edit this one to read:

God determines each individual's eternal destiny.

A. True
B. False

?????
 

olegig

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Ok, you get with Amy and work this thing out.......

All you hen-picked so-and-so's can keep doin' this; but my wife said I need to go do some yard work......
 
I don't know about these gisms...so I didn't vote in the poll.

But I do believe that God found me.

I believe other people find God.

What gism does that make me ?
 
So if The Spirit gives me one light to walk in, and you believe, that your light is different than my light, then you are right, and I am wrong ?


What happened to "Soul Competency", brethren ?

Soul freedom ? Priesthood of the Believer ? Autonomy ? You know those Baptist distinctions we all learned about in RA's, GA'S, Training Union, Sunday School, etc... ?
 
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