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Discussion in 'Other Christian Denominations' started by Earth Wind and Fire, Apr 11, 2020.

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  1. Walpole

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    EWTN is 100% listener supported. They do not sell advertising and they are not subsidized by the bishops. They are not supported by the bishops. The bishops' had their own television network, Catholic Telecommunications Network of America, which was a disaster and subsequently failed.

    What homosexual predator are you talking about? EWTN has had several priests who have had their "link cut" and been removed.
     
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    Rossi. You and Voris disagree about the method of funding of EWTN. I have no idea. Voris is not church of the nice.
     
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    I know nothing of Rossi nor of Voris so I can't speak to them.

    Not sure what church of the nice is either. A new sect I suppose.
     
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    It's your denomination but the National Basicila has been in the news for a year or more because of McCarrick and Wuerl. I suppose that Voris has been around for a decade. Then there is LifeSite News, Remenant Newspaper with Michael Matt and Dr. Taylor Marshall on YouTube. And there is Vagano and a host of communist dissidents who know Pope Francis very well from his activities inside the Italian-influenced Peronist Party in Buenos Aires.

    McCarrick evaded the law and now is in hiding and thought to be very wealthy.

    Rossi is under investigation in two other institutions and has come under fire for using an ex-con for the Basicila security detail boss.
     
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    If you find this horrific and scandalous, then you have made my point...

    "Corruptio optimi pessima."
     
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    What point is that that I have made? I think that the RCC cannot reform and the next Pope will be like Pope Francis because Cardinals are disfranchised after age 80 and Francis has now appointed a majority of the College. As for EWTN, they themselves seem to be ashamed that they aired a homosexual predator live on Good Friday. There are a lot of Catholic dissidents but they are just a tiny minority. The Vatican has financial problems and is full of people like Bono, Jeff Sachs, Ban Ki-Moon, Evo Morales, Bernie Sanders, etc. It is possible that Communist China will bail out Francis since they pick the Chinese Bishops.
     
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    Go back and read your first reply to my post on the prior page.

    Again, if you find this horrific and scandalous, then you have made my point...

    —-> "Corruptio optimi pessima."
     
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    Do you mean that EWTN is a train wreck in slow motion? I am not sure what post exactly you are talking about or how I have made your point. Rossi is your priest--why did EWTN pull the link to his Good Friday service? It certainly wasn't from pressure from Protestants--we have given up on you because of your inability to reform for various reasons.
     
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    You haven't given up on us, in fact you seem awfully infatuated with us as you constantly bring us up and what happens in our church time and time again. (As evidenced right here in this thread)
     
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    Not really. What happened about 6 years ago was that I started reading Latin Americans who were against communism. They had the scoop on this Italian Peronist who was a political insider in Buenos Aires but was silent on the two major terrorist attacks against Jews in Argentina before Nine Eleven. Francis was also very thick with Fidel Castro and other communists. He undid some of the work of Pope John Paul II in Latin America.

    I don't recall how I stumbled on Church Militant and also Michael Matt but they only confirmed what the dissidents were saying. It's true I have some Latin mass friends but they live in another suburb so I seldom see them.

    I quote RCC sources more than Latin American sources because they are looking at the USA and not South America. South America is now poorer than Africa but they are not fashionable.

    Now the problem is globalism and Bill Gates is funding abortion and experimental vaccines in Africa and is a source of funding for the Vatican. You mentioned Pell and I have to wonder if the Vatican had him arrested and imprisoned for a year in Australia, another place without a bill of rights?
     
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    So maybe you should start with concerns over the rampant child diddlers in Baptist churches. Don't give me the ' but we never cover it up baloney' because I will post link after link of Baptist churches that have done just that. We know you have a particular axe to grind with the CC. But, since I have read many of your posts with your long search and unwillingness to drive the amount of miles to attend a 'Baptist church that suits you' maybe you should involve yourself with changing the Baptist and not the obsession you have with the CC.
     
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    A train wreck? EWTN is more popular than it ever has been, with more platforms and viewers than at anytime in its history.

    As for this link you continue to claim was broken, the Good Friday service from the Basilica is linked on EWTN's Youtube channel plain as day. Thus your entire complaint is bogus!

    Enjoy --->

    (You can skip to about the 1.00 mark if you want to go straight to the service.)
     
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    Note... I do but I also am completely revolted by all the rampant cover ups by the RCC which you cannot deny.

    As a side note, do you know who encouraged me to leave the Catholic Church, why it was my mother and my aunt, both deeply Catholic women who were troubled by your myriad pedophile priests... for which I’m totally grateful. Also do you want to know who are the converts to the Baptist and Protestant churches in Northern and Central New Jersey? Why they are primarily Catholics who are also disgusted by your pedofile problem. So why don’t you just own up to it.

    Lastly, thanks mom & thanks aunt Rose Marie ... btw, an ex catholic nun.
     
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    That would be denying the Lord Jesus Himself, as Pauline Justification is NOT held by Rome!
     
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    NT Wright is dead wrong on Justification!
     
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    Should we mention that Baptists are not Protestants?
     
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    (note: italicize my emphasis to clarify)

    AS I stated before - the reason for the amount of info about RCC "priests" is there are so many who are guilty.
    I don't know about Protestants minister - actually I cant think of any I have heard about - but there have been several Baptist ministers of megachruches and how they have been found guilty of this horrific crime. Some of these were very well known and respected by Baptists throughout the country. A major city newspaper did some research and found several hundred pastors and other church leaders who were guilty of abusing children.

    The difference between the RCC and Baptists - is that the "priests" come under control of the bishops - and often in the past were often just moved to another church. Baptist pastors only come under control of their local church and not the denomination.

    In fact, right here in the Salt City, there was a Baptist pastor of a small IFB church whom I personally know, was arrested and spent time in jail for his crime. He has been released, but is no longer serving in a church.

    So don't think we only pick on Catholics - it just that the RCC is the largest Religious group in the USA, and statistically have the most individuals who take the wrong path. I abhor any person - male or female, of any religious group who would treat a child improperly.
     
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    You can... that we don’t come from and never have been from the RCC.
     
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    Nonsense! You are only fooling yourself! I used to buy this drivel too. Thankfully, my formerly Baptist missionary (now Catholic) helped educate me. You see, here in the West, where conversions to Catholicism by former Baptist FAR outnumber vice versa, we are fortunate to have imtellectuall historians who finally face the truth:

    'Thankfully intellectually honest Baptists, such as James McGoldrick who was once himself a believer in Baptist successionism are conceding that this “trail of blood” view is, frankly, bogus. McGoldrick writes:

    Extensive graduate study and independent investigation of church history has, however, convinced [the author] that the view he once held so dear has not been, and cannot be, verified. On the contrary, surviving primary documents render the successionist view untenable. . . . Although free church groups in ancient and medieval times sometimes promoted doctrines and practices agreeable to modern Baptists, when judged by standards now acknowledged as baptistic, not one of them merits recognition as a Baptist church. Baptists arose in the 17th century in Holland and England. They are Protestants, heirs of the reformers. (Baptist Successionism: A Crucial Question in Baptist History [1994], 1–2)'

    Thanks Aunt Lori for helping me to see the that Baptist are INDEED Protestants and that Baptist Successionism is a farce!
     
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    Oh, OK! Lol. You convinced me finally! Try taking his position apart piece by piece biblically and convince us that way instead of your mantra'. Your accusations convince none of us!
     
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